Amir Khan: ''No Defence, All Offence''.

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  1. Bill C84

    Bill C84 Boxing Junkie banned

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    If you want a defensive master to sort out Khan's defensive issue's, why not Pernell Whitaker? it won't make a blind bit of difference but why not, this isn't hate by the way this is constructive criticism I really do believe this.
     
  2. thewinfella

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    I honestly think the lad needs to go into almost isolation , get rid of everything , strip it all down and literally start again

    Firstly , if Pedro Diaz would coach him , and i were team Khan , that would be our man , he is what Khan needs

    Secondly , i honestly believe the kids doomed (I'm not bashing , do not mistake this for bashing) , he's deluded , he believes he's something he really is not , i don't know where it comes from , i don't know who's telling him , but he believes he's an elite fighter and refuses to acknowledge and address his flaws , is it his clear lack of intelligence ?? possibly , ego ?? possibly , but one thing is certain , if he doesn't address his flaws , and simply ignores them he's getting knocked out again

    I wanna add that yes Khan doesn't have a chin !!! , that doesn't mean he's got no career at the top , Tommy Hearns didn't have a chin !!! , my point above is coupled with the fact that Khans strategic approach to boxing seems to have dissolved , the fact he was keeping long , and not hooking with anyone , keeping the hands high , staying on the outside , were all factors that were strategically protecting a weakness , his chin !!! , well why has he stopped boxing " in out " , why does he now believe he's a puncher who can brutally KO people ??? , i don't understand it

    My summary is this , Khan and Roach are done , Roach is a celebrity not a coach nowadays and the wild card is the place where Vogue and GQ suggest you go and learn boxing , Khan needs to look in the mirror and be honest with himself , address the flaws , fight to your strengths , humble up and he can go a long way , if none of above happen , he won't be fighting no more this time in 2 - 3 years :deal
     
  3. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    He revitalized Zab for a little while but he was a problem for Zab in the end and his demands for the Khan fight caused Zab major issues. He wanted Judah to fight low and he was a sitting duck for Khan.

    He wasn't understanding the reasons Zab was struggling. I think Pernell has the Bryan Robson problem of not understanding why fighters can't do what he could. He could become a great coach but at present he's still a little to fly :lol:. I could imagine him showing up 2 hours late for training :lol:.

    Sweet Pea i don't think would have any idea or want to work with Khan. I know a few of the Yanks don't like his style at all.
     
  4. SouthpawSlayer

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    it would be a ballsy move by team khan to take on JMM right now but would that choice be one of confidence or $$$?

    steward would be one of the best options he would work a lot with khans strenghts and someone who could teach khan some humbleness and how to act and behave a bit better as you say
     
  5. SkillspayBills

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    I genuinely think if they are serious about this fight there attitude is if your gonna lose then lose to the best and bow out. If he wins then great, masterstroke and he's back on the path to Mayweather.

    I think it's a uneducated decision if this is the case, I can seriously imagine them saying 'Yeah JMM is a great, he's smaller and he isn't a massive puncher. Amir will KO him'. Once again a bad, BAD move as we both know. JMM's timing is level above Garcia's and we all know what happened there..
     
  6. Bill C84

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    I think that's probably spot on mate. :lol: Pernell Robson a man to be not to be feared. :lol:
     
  7. thewinfella

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    Skills I'm sorry mate

    But this is what I'm talking about , how can a kid who's lost to Prescott and Garcia by brutal KO and a loss to Lamont Peterson (tainted i know but its a loss, depending on what way you look at it) have ever been on the track to Floyd Mayweather ??? , this is a kid who's been flattened by 2 top level guys , just top level guys , not even close to being branded elite , in fact we have all seen what Prescott is

    How is Khan , " back on the path to Mayweather " if he beats his next opponent ?? , he's never been on it :deal , again this isn't me bashing the lad , I'm just wondering why Khan is different to any other fighter who is basically vastly over rated ??? I'm genuinely interested :huh
     
  8. Bill C84

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    Khan v Mayweather (as daft as it is) is possible, even now after being constantly shown his limitations, it's a fight that would make money despite it being a mismatch.
     
  9. thewinfella

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    Ok I'm being ignored thats fair enough , after all Khan ignores the fact he's **** so why should his fans acknowledge it , I'm probably on the " not worthy " list of trolls residing in ESB these days :lol: :patsch

    Im gonna bang on anyway , a tell tale sign Khan will not change was the episode of him and David Haye on ringside , when your looking at someone who has genuine genuine delusion , look no further than Amir Khan , this was a man sitting with the spot light on him and coming out with every single cliche a deluded man in his position has to offer

    " we got caught by a bomb " , " we just made a silly mistake " , " as Richard says my balls are too big for my own good " , " that punch would of knocked any man out " ...................... it goes on

    Then David Haye himself was chipping in and you could tell from his smirk and facial expressions he knew he was lying :lol: , it was a cringeworthy piece of media it really was , anyway my final point being , the lad will not accept he has flaws in the defensive area of boxing , if he will not accept and address his flaws , only one thing is going to happen to him in the future :deal
     
  10. thewinfella

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    Mayweather vs the Big Show was PPV mate , what is your point ???

    Theres no credibility to the fight , none !!!
     
  11. SouthpawSlayer

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    he was refferring to how team khan might be thinking
     
  12. thewinfella

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    And you took that from this :

    " I genuinely think if they are serious about this fight there attitude is if your gonna lose then lose to the best and bow out. If he wins then great, masterstroke and he's back on the path to Mayweather. "

    :huh

    Even if he was , where is the credibility , why does Khan , who is now 0 & 2 in his last 2 , one of them being a knock out to the much un fancied Danny Garcia , warrant a shot at Floyd Mayweather when there are others who don't get a mention ??

    Who actually believes the lad can make the fight competitive let alone think about beating Mayweather :D
     
  13. Bill C84

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    Totally agree 100%, in a ideal world the fight wouldn't even be mentioned let alone be touted, its not a ideal world though and if something makes money, you can bet your life people will be trying to make it, it's **** but true unfortunately.
     
  14. Camaris

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    I take your point entirely. But I have this question. Why do you give a flying **** about 'creditbility'? Why would you not want to see this fight happen because of 'credibility' not being there? Would it bore you to sleep? Would you switch it off if it came on? Would you close the curtains if they were fighting in your garden? Are people who are interested in it all a bunch of twats?

    I ask because clearly most people are interested in the fight, whether they like Khan or think he is a plum, and most boxing fans would watch it with a lot of casual sports fans also watching and buying PPV. So credible? Who knows. You say not, but other might say so. Either way, why do some people give such a **** about credible match ups? You can say 'they destroy boxing!' like some hysterical outraged spinster aunt, but I still wonder.

    I hope Khan takes Mayweather on in his next fight and has a tear up with his chin hanging out there and eyes closed while throwing bombs and singing the national anthem. :)
     
  15. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    I'm not saying it mate, I'm saying that's what they would think :good.