Amir Khan: ''No Defence, All Offence''.

Thats a very fair post m8 :good

 

yes because if you read the convo between me and skills from the start thats what we were talking about

also in the post you highlighted from skills it says "their attitude" their meaning team khan

i think you have missed out on something in this thread :good

 

Im ranting mate , tried not too , but ended up ranting

:good apologies

 

Khans problem is a simple one, His Head Positions the Body. It should be where the Body positions the Head, He has always done it. At a level with His Athleticism, He got away with it. Its a Big Job to take on, it will take time.

 

Pacquiao is a terrible influence on Khan, i dont actually believe Roach is trying to get Khan to fight like Pacquiao (or at least to the same level of intensity) i just think Khan is terrible at following a gameplan and gets overexcited.

 

this is a good point

i dont think there are many boxers at any level who dont look up to and try mimic the best boxers in their gym or take moves from fighters and try them, implement them in their own game. Problem is khans most effective style is one that should be the polar opposite to what pac does

 

Pac knows what a back Foot is for, Khan doesnt. Khan hasnt a reverse Gear

 

If by some miracle Amir Khan knocked on my door and asked me for advice, the first thing I would tell him is to slow down a tad and pick his punches, you don't need to throw 7 punches just to get the guy off balance.

Maybe use your jab to do that, even better double up on it sometimes, get the opponent where you want him and then throw a flurry of punches, he's not a puncher, his style reflects that, he needs ring guile and honesty.

 

Both of you hit the nail on the head really. Khan tries to imitate Pacquiao to the point that he wont follow Roach's gameplan. Im sure that Roach wants Khan to move around the ring quickly whilst firing out quick accurate straight punches. Roach is not half as stupid as some people try and make out. Roach fully well knows Khan has a weak chin and average power, certainly not the stuff that you build Pacquiao 2.0 from, unfortunately Roach knows that but Khan dare i say is to ignorant and arrogant to fully take on board the knowledge that Roach has. The worst part about it is that Roach is going to be taking a lot of the flack that should be aimed elsewhere, namingly the yes men that Khan has surrounded himself with and most importantly himself. Not saying Roach isnt strong but i think its getting hard for him to fully assert his authority over what i believe to be a "problem pupil". A trainer like Steward i believe would tell Khan exactly how it is and what he expects, obviously along with the added dimensions he would add to Khan's somewhat limited game.

 

Dom, Khan has been doing it so long, the Muscle imbalance, so wrong. It would take six months of doing, Dynamic Stretching to even have a chance, to solve the problem. I agree with you on mindsett, which I believe happens away from the Gym.

 

Jesus, your posts aren't replied to for about 15 minutes, and you go all spazzy. Get a grip. If Khan is so **** how comes he's managed to achieve more then pretty much every British boxer in the past decade barring a handful of fighters?

As regards his level of delusion - is it really so much greater then any other fighter who suffered an embarrassing loss or two? Or is it that Khan's profile affords him more opportunities to embarrass himself? You don't really have to go back to far in the history of British boxing to find excuses as equally far-fetched:

How about Carl Froch's claims that he was robbed against Kessler - and his claims that he had been responsible for retiring the Dane?

Or his belief that he lost a razor thin decision to Andre Ward by a single round (although thanks to the incompetent judges this is actually correct)?

Or Enzo Mac's blaming his defeat to David Haye on a solitary mistake (which he is yet to reveal)?

Or Enzo Mac reflecting on his losses to Afolabi and Lebedev claiming neither was as talented as Hobson or Dominguez, and that the best version of himeself would've triumphed if well prepared?

Or Ricky Hatton's assertions that he was winning the second around against Manny Pac by 'country mile'?

I could go on, and mention the minor incident of the baring of a small toe post fight at ringside last year, and many other similar incidents where a fighter has tried to massage his own bruised ego by blaming external circumstances, chance, misfortune or wielded that tried and tested 'I got caught with a big punch' line but I haven't really the time.

Khan is no different to any other fighter who has suffered an embarrassing ko loss in a high profile fight watched by a global audience. To an extent it is beneficial to his confidence and self-esteem to highlight the minor positives of his defeat, (his undoubted heart), and look to explain away the reasons for his defeat (his tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny brain and below average punch resistance).

To me the fact that he is assessing his relationship with Roach is not necessarily evidence of Khan looking to absolve himself of blame, but finally realising that certain aspects of his training camp need to be looked at (the incessant jet-setting, his sparring being conducted under the supervision of a strength and conditioning coach etc). Whether or not he actually looks inside himself and realises in full the changes in mentality that he has to adopt, and whether he has the ability to implement these necessary changes in the ring when caught, (as alluded to by Flea), is another matter entirely.

I'm in agreement with Slip when he posted a while back, (prior to Khan's most recent defeat), that Khan would score some major victories sandwiched in between some ko losses.

And as for being 'vastly overrated'? He may vastly overestimate his own abilites, (as do most of our boxers), but who else other then a handful of his most ardent fanboys overrates him? If anything post-Garcia he is massively underrated these days - I saw a thread on another Brit forum, where Ricky Burns was laughably tipped by a few to best him. One poster went even as far as to state that he believed Burns would stop Khan and another claimed he didn't have the power to stop Mitchell! Ridiculous.

As stated and the beginning of this rant you'd be hard pressed to find ten British fighters who achieved more then Khan since the turn of the century. I can only think of Lewis, Calzaghe, Froch, Hatton and Haye who could be ranked above him.