Amir Khan v Ricky Hatton @ 140lb

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  1. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Khan would win this easy within 10 rounds. Khan has the body of a future welterweight and at light welterweight he would still be far too big and strong for Hatton.

    People talk about his weak chin but how the hell will Hatton get to his chin with his short arms? Khan is almost 5"11 with a reach of over 72 and Hatton is only 5"7 with reach of only 65.

    Hatton will do his best to rush in but all Khan has to do is use his jab to keep him from distance. Hatton will get worn down by round 10 and get stopped. If it goes the distance Khan would win by points easy with his size and reach difference. He's just too big for Hatton.
     
  2. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How do you know?
     
  3. rapidHOOK

    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    khan all day

    thats right im being seriouse

    if it happens ill put my money on it too
     
  4. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Khan wins inside 6 rounds, too fast , too big .
     
  5. RagamuffinMan

    RagamuffinMan Active Member Full Member

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    I've been a lurker on ESB for years now, restricing myself to comments on articles every now and again. However, this thread prompted me into signing up...

    It's a question that we'll never get answered for a variety of reasons.

    Firstly, you have to look at why either of the camps would want Khan to fight Hatton. Somewhere along the line there has to be something to gain. Neither would gain anything other than a payday. On that count, Ricky doesn't need it and Khan couldn't command much of it - so it's a no go.

    Then, where would the career of each fighter go upon conclusion of the fight? If Khan won he would be told he'd beaten a washed up fighter who had little to fight for other than a semblance of pride that, for most of his fans, he wouldn't need to do anyway. If Hatton won he'd be told he'd just wrecked the prospects of the one fighter that the press in Britain think has any chance of filling his boots. He'd also be told he'd beaten a man with a glass chin and who clearly didn't punch as hard as people thought he did. So, neither wins.

    Further examination of both fighters reveals that they get on relatively well - but that Hatton doesn't quite fit the more glamorous lifestyle that Khan has begun to enjoy. The fast cars have got him into trouble already and he's not quite the down-to-earth Bolton boy that the press seem to like to make out. But Khan has viewed Hatton as a father figure, almost. Hatton has advised him and helped him where he can. The prospect of the two of them getting into a ring doesn't fit the characters that they are. Khan is almost in awe of Hatton. Yet Hatton has a son-like wish to see Khan do well. So neither wins.

    However, let's imagine that they have a big falling out and call each other names for a week or two and that they both decide they now hate each other enough to forget practicalities or anything before today - and they get it on. What happens then?

    Look at their last few fights, because in my opinion only the last 2-3 fights of any modern boxer are an indication of what is likely to happen. Fights are scheduled to what? 2 a year nowadays? So grant them 18 months of form.

    That means Hatton has been mauled in one, beaten a no punching girl in another and trudged through a fight he wasn't really interested in before that. He is exposed as a boxer who can't compete with the 2 elite men but will probably beat the rest. However, a good few have now seen that his chin isn't quite as strong as it used to be and they're going to be a lot more confident in swinging for it.

    So Khan is going to win?

    Well here we have a young man who got knocked out because of the biggest mismatch in the divisions history when his management put him in the ring with a man everyone else in the world avoided - and probably didn't tell him he packed one of the biggest punches in the sport. Then he had a nice 'gimme' fight against ***an and then he took on the legend that was Marco Antonio Barrera. He beat Barrera so that's that - he's bound for the stratosphere.

    Except no. Barrera fought back against Khan for 2 rounds despite being subject to one of the worst cuts I have seen in decades. Yet Khan couldn't put away this blinded and aging boxer who has repeated his claims that Khans punches weren't anything like as hard as he expected. Khan couldn't put away a blind man. He took a few shots and every time he did he backed off a little because he now has a proper trainer in his corner.

    But, well done Amir, the British press now tell you how well you've done to beat (and I don't discount the fact he was winning before the cut, but it was hardly epic against a 75 year old battle torn warrior who looked a lot older than anyone expected and had won his previous fight by DQ and the one before that was fought in a gym in China...) Barrera and that the defeat to Prescott was clearly nothing more than one of those rare moments in boxing. You know, like when Douglas beats Tyson. A fluke. You're great Amir, you really are.

    Forget the fact that for fight after fight your punching power has been diminishing because you're now facing people who are used to taking shots - and you're now having to learn how to defend that chin of yours. Freddie can teach you how to tuck it in, bob, weave and all the rest of it - but when a shot connects you have to take it.

    Fact is - he can't take a decent shot of any kind and he never will.

    That brings me on to the final two reasons this fight will never happen.

    Khan will get beaten by Kotelnik. Yet again his camp have let their fighter down by putting him in with someone who wants the win and has the capacity to get it. If he connects - Khan is going down. If he doesn't, it won't matter because Khans recent punch rate to connect rate is actually very poor - and Kotelnik will steal in on a decision if it goes the distance (which I doubt).

    Lastly, Hatton will hopefully tell everyone he's had enough and sign up a few fighters that don't want to be associated with Sports Liquidation Limited or whatever they're called - and he'll promote some of the best fights we'll see in coming years along with his pal from Golden Boy. If he doesn't, he still won't fight Khan. He'll ask the British boxing community who they'd most like to see him shut up. Everyone will shout 'Witter' so loudly that Ricky will pop his clogs on and set the fight up for a back street in Manchester that very night. It'll last 2 rounds, Ricky will retire happy and Witter will tell the world he was unlucky and was just about to land a knockout blow.

    But in a nutshell, nah, it'll not happen.
     
  6. rapidHOOK

    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    welcome to esb

    man thats one long ass post, ill tell you know most will not read that at all

    i skimmed it through and you have some good points

    but khan will beat kotelnik, it was extreamly well match-making by the master frank warren
    kotelnik is way to stationary khan will have a field day lunging in-out landing 2-3 punches for the whole 12rds
    freddie has taught him in alot already, and khan has gained a very good style that will save his chin from getting checked by most boxer
    also his hands are faster that pac's simple counters can be whipped of with ease by kahn
     
  7. RagamuffinMan

    RagamuffinMan Active Member Full Member

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    Ok, I'll summarise:

    1. The fights makes no sense.
    2. Hatton is finished.
    3. Khan is an average fighter who has been found out.

    p.s. I'm British and there is no anti-whatever sentiment in what I write. I just write what I think.
     
  8. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    whatever u say pal. Hatton cannot beat Khan , won't reach his chin. Prescott is a freak, he's over 6 foot tall and fighting at lightweight, he's also known as a banger and i say Prescott hits alot harder than Hatton. Hatton is a midget with short arms, how is going to get near Khan. Khan is almost as fast as pacman somesay even faster and u saw how hatton delt with pac's speed. He couldn't.

    Come back after the fight with Kotelnik and eat some crow son. we'll be waiting.
     
  9. Mike_S

    Mike_S Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think you're writing off Khan too soon ragamuffinman. Maybe his chin will improve at 140 and personally I don't think Hatton would reach it much and neither will the likes of Kotelnik probably or others he will be carefully matched up with. I think Khan and his team would see this as a confidently winnable fight and in doing so would make a huge pay day, the biggest of his career. It would probably be the biggest Sky Box Office event ever so that would make it appeal to Hatton if he wants to risk the embarrasement of losing to Khan which I think he will as he would just be handing over the Baton and part of his fanbase to the next big thing in British boxing. I see this happening, too much money to be made.
     
  10. rapidHOOK

    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    let me tell you this

    i dont rate kahn highly, actualy i dont even like him
    hes a damn fool

    but looking at the tools he has, long reach, good height, extreamly fast hands, very good footwork that he has been workingon alot with freddie to keep him away from counter

    hatton is realy limited and if you have been looking on these forums for a while you will know that i have been calling hatton an over-rated limited fighter for a hell of a long time
    i never buy into his hype, or his army of fans, i just look at his skills and ill tell you something he aint got much skills at all :verysad

    its a bitter pill to swallow for a hatton fan
    to think a guy like kahn, can beat their man
     
  11. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Think Khan would love to knock out Hatton. I know they are friends but he got booed by Hatton's fans at the pac/hat weigh in. Not very nice.
     
  12. Mike_S

    Mike_S Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The fight makes sense for Khan, why not? He would only gain from it. It makes money for Hatton also so if that's what he wants then it makes sense for him too.
     
  13. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In the next 12 months Khan will improve under Roach even more, I think his counter punching style when perfected can be deadly to any fighter due to his crazy fast hand speed and good feet movement.

    And who knows at 140 Khan's chin might improve a little, being 5'10 at 135 must of been hard making the weight, at 140 Khan will feel better allround.
     
  14. IronBull

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    Khan..

    Easy.............
     
  15. bdman

    bdman Active Member Full Member

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