Amir khan vs Joel casamayor

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by BIG WORM, Mar 24, 2008.


  1. Claypole

    Claypole Boxing Addict banned

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    I just read that, he claims Kristjansen reminds him of himself in his amateur days. If he wants to be reminded of his amateur days, all he has to do is rewatch his fight with St Claire.
     
  2. Claypole

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    He has improved, of course, but the way he fought against St Claire reminded me of him as an amateur. He flitted around the ring looking to land light punches and not get involved, and it just reminded me of watching him in the Olympics.
     
  3. LeadLeftHook

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    Light punching in the amatuers, granted he was no banger!!! But, say that to the Asian champ whom he stopped, in fact Khan had the only stoppage in the Olympics that year. The 17 yr old also bullied and battered Stilianov, the European champ at the time like doll so you dont make much sense in that regard.
     
  4. Claypole

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    I was wondering when somebody was going to say something. A lot of them come here and are horrified to find that not everybody thinks the same about Amir Khan as they do.
    Many of them are only fans of Khan rather than fans of boxing, and it shows in their posts.
     
  5. BIG WORM

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    wot like you, your a fan boy aint ya:good

    wassup with your avator.. hahah its funny
     
  6. Claypole

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    If Khan steps up to the plate and does the business, then I will become a fan. Never a "fanboy" though!
     
  7. kerrminator

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  8. MattMattMatt

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    To summarise the key points:

    * Khan's chin is a possible major weakness, but...
    * Casamayor is not a noted puncher.
    * Khan is young but unexperienced, and..
    * Casamayor is old but experienced.
    * Casamayor just beat a young contender, but...
    * the scoring was pretty close at time of the KO, and...
    * Katsidis is not as fast as and has inferior defence to Khan.
    * It's easy to overrate Khan due to the hype, but...
    * It's also easy to underrate him due to disliking the hype.

    So what do I think would happen if Khan faced Casamayor? I think one of two things would be likely to happen, either Khan's lack of experience would show through and he wouldn't cope with Casa and his wily ring skills (and fouls), or Casa's age would show and Khan would be too fast for him. I don't think the comparisons made between Kosta and Zab are that relevant, I think Zab's main weakness in that fight was complacency - which is something which I don't think Amir would show. From what I have seen so far he appears to have far greater mental strength than Zab has shown, but I admit there is little evidence (other than the impressive response to the Limmond knowck down) to draw concrete conlusions yet.
     
  9. kerrminator

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    To compare Khan to Casa is a joke.

    Casa would make light work of him, Juan Diaz would stop him early and Campbell would outbox him easily.

    Lets see how he fares at British level first (if he ever does) before we get carried away with all this obvious hype :?
     
  10. MattMattMatt

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    I agree with your general sentiment, but not all the specific points. Before I posted that I deleted my first sentence which was, "All of this is mere speculation as we don't know how good Khan really is yet.", but then I thought that was bleedingly obvious so I deleted it!:D

    I disagree with that, I feel that for most promising looking boxers that there is no reliable way of saying whether they are over/underrated until we have seen them face all levels of competition, even if all the early indicators point to one or the other. It's all just predictions until we see results. Khan may turn out to be world class at the highest level, in which case it would have been wrong to label him as overrated now. On the other hand he may struggle at the highest level, in which case you would have been right, but until that time comes we can't say for sure one way or the other no matter how much confidence we have in our predicitions.

    I would be very suprised if a boxer who waited for the perfect opportunity to counter for the entire duration of the fight (and barely threw punches in double figures in total) didn't land when his opponent opened up, but it's not going to win many fights.


    I don't reckon Khan would have been KDd like that, I think he has a better defence that Katsidis and he controls himself much better now and picks his punches far better. If is willing to go 12 rounds fairly boring rounds only doing what is required against a defensive counter puncher like St. Clair then I doubt he would do a 'Katsidis' and waste all his good work with a moments madness against a more dangerous Casamayor.

    Idiot/complacent - I think it's mostly semantics, but I suppose idoicy is closer to the truth. However, I don't think Khan will be prone to that either.
     
  11. SleazeNation

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    :good