Amir Khan vs. Lamont Peterson II Build-Up Thread! - WASHINGTON D.C PRESS CONF INSIDE

me either,im a lover not a fighter,**** at both mind you:?

 

Anyone know what time the weigh in & fight will be on?

 

Weigh-in will be after 9pm tonight, and the fight will be no sooner than 3am, I'm guessing.

 

HBO starts at 9:45pm ET which is 2:45am here with Seth Mitchell-Ibragimov in a 10 rounder before the main event. Look for the main event to be starting possibly after 3:30am.

Weigh-in is at 7pm our time this evening, Golden Boy will almost certainly have a stream for it.

 

They're showing the replay of Cotto-Margarito first so it will be later than that.

 

Don't mind that:hey

Also think it was in this thread that they were talking about Malignaggi doing more TV work - he is working with BBC radio (presumably 5) doing commentary for the fight.

 

Nice 1 guys. Do u reckon the weigh in will be live on sky sports news?

 

At 6:30pm SS2 are doing a count down to the fight, they might show the weigh in live on there.

 

oh man i cant wait for khan to get knocked out cold again tomorrow :hey

 

Some strange brand of ''common sense'' shall not prevail over my pendantry and logic(plus I was totally baked when I made that post, it was nearly four in the morning for god sake!).:nono

North = A point on a compass. To the left of a person facing a rising sun. It's also a region that is situated in a certain area, i.e. it's called NORTH America and not ''Up America''.

Up = A more elevated position. Be that a person(standing up, getting up, etc.) or something else(moon, sun, etc.) moving in an upward direction. I.e. I ''got up'', not ''I northed up''.

Now, I'm not very clued up on the mountainous regions of England - seeing as I'm not from there - but for the sake of my dick let's just say Relentless was standing at the highest point of London, and he was going to kick the **** out of IRONSENSE, who was standing at the lowest point of Birmingham, would Relentless be heading down? No, he would not.:bart

 

Punching WITH your opponent is the hardest thing to do in boxing, but it's the best chance Peterson has of beating Khan.

I'm not sure if he should press the fight and follow Khan around. He's not particularly great at cutting off the ring, he angles his feet and looks really plodding when he goes on the offensive. He's not a good pressure fighter.

I think what he should do early on is fight how he fought in the second half against Ortiz. He needs to make Khan lead, force him to show his hand and figure out his punching pattern and try and time him inbetween his punches. Staying nice and tight and compact.

At the same time he can't go in there with a blank slate, trying to completely develop his gameplan around Khan. He has to be proactive and not always reactive, this will keep Khan guessing. It's a tough balance to strike.

It's great to try and hold it out and react to your opponent, but very few fighters have the ability to do that and be totally effective. I don't think Peterson has those tools (eye and reflexes) to 'wait' on Khan constantly, that would give Khan too much of an initiative. So Lamont has to be ready to throw change-ups and switch gears.

Peterson can't let Khan pre-emt his attacks. He can't admire his work, which he has a tendency to do. He doesn't want to get into a situation where Khan is one step ahead, planning his next move while Lamont is still thinking of the last one, which i fear is ganna be the case.

Lamont's jab is ganna be a key for him. It's the best way to try and neutralize Khans speed advantage and off set his rhythm. He needs to be assertive and creative with it. Shot it to the body, double it up and throw it upwards.

I would try and punch through Amir's jab with a right hand. What i mean by that is, when two conventional guys are facing eachother, it's difficult to land the back hand because they effectively follow the same line. So the only way to land your right effectively and not just throwing it at the same time as your opponent as they follow the same trajectory, is to come from a different angle or parry his jab.

He has to bait Khan, read him. As Amir throws his jab, Lamont has to throw his right hand, deflect the momentum of the jab and send the right hand home. Jabbing out or following up with a left hook if Khan doesn't recover his punch quickly enough. He needs to do this early and set a tone for the fight. I'd also like to see him go to the body with the right, but that would be very dangerous, he could get countered very easily because there is just such a disparity in speed of hand and foot.

Ultimately though, does Peterson have what it takes to carry out a perfect fight? which is what he'll need to win. I don't think so. He's ganna need a Marquez type of timing and precision and he just doesn't have it. I think Khan will prove to be too much for him. There's just too much he has to be able to do, which ever way he fights.

 

From his Twitter

AmirKingKhan Amir Khan
Saturday night The show starts at 2.30am on Sky Sports 1 Im scheduled to be in the ring 10.50pm Us time ET, 3.50am UK time

Also Sky have said that the weigh in will be live on SSN

 

That's precisely why I dont think he'll win. He doesn't have the right temperament to fight the kind of fight he needs to fight. Going on the front foot and pressing from behind the jab whilst gradually cutting the ring down takes a fighter with a certain type of mentality imo. Peterson is too safe and defense orientated of a fighter to fight that kind of fight. I'm talking about the kind of fight Cotto fought against Yuri Foreman to cut off exits and stick the jab on him to stabilize his movement.

I'm not sure he can allow Khan to come foward AND! allow him to get off first, as I think he might drop rounds through inactivity whilst trying to pull the trigger on those chances he gets. Khan is particularly fast lets not forget. If I recall Ortiz fell into the trap of loading up with single punches so I think it was easier to get his timing down and avoid his shots. Khan throws combinations, so he might overwhelm and outwork Peterson in that sense.


I dont think he should exclusively wait on Khan, stalking him off the front foot to counter, that is where the jab comes into play imo. The jab should be used to lead off to save him waiting for too long. He needs to use the jab as a comfort blanket to keep Khan off him, out at range, whilst using it to get off first whilst cutting the ring down so he can break up Khan's rhythm.

He certainly cant shell up and put the ear muffs, cause he will allow Khan to rattle off on him.

I dont think he does either to be honest. That's just not his mentality as a fighter. I think if he fights the fight you said he will get outworked, and if fights the fight I said he will fall victim of his temperament. The fact he is a thinking fighter who needs to be more assertive. If he's not assertive enough he will allow Khan too much time and space to move, change the angle, then get off first with the speed.

 

I agree with what Jpab has said about Peterson. In his big fights (Bradley, Ortiz, Cayo) he wasn't consistent. I really couldn't tell you what Peterson's game plan was in any of those fights because of how he fought.

It is very strange because sometimes he will have a really good round doing something and you think he is probably better of doing this for now. Then all of a sudden he might start doing something random the next round. WTF? That is what I haven't been able to understand about Peterson.

After Bradley knocked Peterson down, Peterson whooped his ass on the inside for the rest of the round. Bradley was hurt from that body attack. But then Peterson didn't stick to it later. Lack of consistency and focus.

 

Peterson suffers from an iffy trainer - he has skills but not the physical gifts (timing, reflexes, awareness, as Slip said), so he needs a rigid game plan and serious discipline. And he appears to have neither.