Amir Khan Vs Paul McCloskey Build-Up Thread!

Take away your blatant bias due to being a Mccloskey fan and tell me why you think he stands any realistic chance of winning this fight.

He isn't a devastating puncher, he certainly isn't faster than Khan, technically he's limited, and while he can show displays of decent skill, barely does 30 seconds go by in a round without him doing/failing to do something in which, had be been in the ring with Khan, the crowd would be on their feet baying for blood while he was banged pillar to post with the ref waving it off

 

Youre a pretty biased english fan yourself.

McCloskey fights significantly better than Khan in close, he has much more pop in his punches as well (as evidenced by him having actual KO's on his record while Khan has put no one down for a 10 count in his entire professional career).

We'll see what happens on the night but youre proudly showing your english bias, when youre talking complete **** about it being over in under 100 seconds...theres only one man that'll be in that ring during that fight thats been beaten not only in under 100 seconds, but in under 1 minute...and I'll give you a clue...hes from Bolton.

I gave McCloskey a much better chance of beating Khan than anyone Khan has faced in the last 3 years.

 

Well then you've misunderstood me, I am not 'nationalistic' in the slightest, in any sport, never mind fighters. Nor am I fan of Khan. My opinion is based on watching Khan fight and watching Mccloskey fight.

A lot of Mccloskey fans seem to bring up Maidana Khan round 10, or like how you've brought up Prescott. None of that is relevent, because neither of them are going to be in the ring on April 16th. Nor is Mccloskey anything remotely like Maidana.

Better close in, perhaps he is.. but there is no way he is going to be in a position to use that advantage.

As for Mccloskeys power, I've yet to see it really display itself. Sure he has 2 KO's from years back, and while his Lauri KO was perfectly fine, it was through Lauri's error that it happened. He certainly hasn't shown the kind of power that could concern Khan. Aside from that he's fought nobody of decent ability, never fought anyone world class, I just don't see how from that you can state how he is going to do XYZ, against a fighter who arguable the second best in the world at that division.

 

Complete knockouts in today's boxing are rare, so just because Khan hasn't done one of those, it doesn't mean he has less power than McCloskey . Tell me, would McCloskey be able to put Maidana down with one of those body shots? Would he also be able to stop a guy like Malignaggi? And are you seriously telling me he has a better chance than what Maidana had?

I'm not knocking McCloskey at all, by the way. I think he's a pretty decent fighter, and a good test for Khan.

 

How exactly was Malignaggi slick in the Khan fight? :huh

 

He never said he was

I was actually impressed by Paulie in some of that fight, he didn't do a bad job, better than I thought he might

 

You are English, I was sure enough of that, and was obviously right. Ive not brought up the Maidana fight...though, I believe Paul has a much better chance of catching Khan clean than Maidana had, i think he will hit khan much more often than Maidana did, will he KO him?...only time will tell.

As for the power, hes not by any means the hardest pucher in the world, though he has 3 more actual KO's on his record than Khan has...that speaks for itself, khan never fought anyone of world class before a faded Malignaggi (a badly blown up and unbelieveably faded Barrera doesnt count!).

We'll have to see what happens on the night, despite what you seem to believe, Khan is far from invincible.

 

Malignaggi IS a slick fighter, he has no punch power so he relies on a lot of movements.

 

He wasn't that slick that fight, which is why I wasn't trying to say he was. He's just regarded as a pretty slick fighter, just like McCloskey is regarded as one. But how slick he can be against quick-handed and long-armed fighter like Khan, is remained to be seen. Malignaggi, with his hands down and head in the air, was punished by Khan once his movement was figured out.

 

Complete KO's happen often enough when theres enough pop in the punch. Im not saying Khan hasn't got power...he obviously has power and shitloads of skill to boot...but I think McCloskey has more pop in his punches than Khan. McCloskey has put someone down for a 10 count with a body shot...so yeah im confident he could've finished Maidana with a body punch. Maliggnaggi had no power at all and he hit Khan pretty often...Khan is still fairly hittable

8:29 :good

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sbUCkQ36wY[/ame]

 

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If I had to place money on it I would say that Mccloskey has more single punch power than Khan, however as you state, Khan has no KO's, yet he wins because he doesn't need that power to do what he does.

Khan certainly isn't invincible. If he fought Maidana 5 times, I think Maidana would take it perhaps twice. I think against Bradley he'll lose. I also think he'd have a hard time with Alexander. This is because I believe they possess qualities which I think give them the ability to defeat him..

I don't think Mccloskey will lose because he's Irish, or because Khan's English and so I am.. I think he'll lose because I don't believe he possesses any of those qualities required to win.

 

I can't see the video, mate, the internet at my place is ****. Yes Khan has a very leaky defence and certainly is hittable. There's no denying that. But we're talking about McCloskey's power in comparison to Khan's. I'm not aware of who McCloskey put down with that body shot, but I'm willing to bet he wasn't a Maidana. He's got a lot of good things going for him (counter-punching, upper-body movement etc), but his power doesn't scream out to me.

 

Its Ivan Orlando Bustos, from Argentina as well, incidently, though not nearly as big a puncher as Maidana...but sure taking a big punch is a lot different than throwing one. McCloskey picks his punches well, and doesnt have to rely on constantly swinging haymakers, though I'd bet he has more power in a single punch than Khan has...as the amount of actual KO's on his record would suggest. He relies more on skill than power, though I think theres is enough pop in his punches to trouble Khan.