Amir Khan: "We should all Agree with Floyd".

agreed, major props to Mayweather for starting this movement.

 

Your a dumb ass because Floyd wants all the test that are currently implemented in addition to WADA standard test; which, include the testing given by the VADA!!

Funny how the world works now that someone in Pacs camp had to experience a set back as a result of someone else cheating!!

Who better to be the example other than a Roach Fighter who is a talented up and comer!!

The Boxing Gods are working!!

 

Many ways. One being cheaper (thus, more easily detected) supps

I agree with this. While I'm under the school of "more" testing does not necessarily = better (random is good, blood is good as long as there's a justifiable basis that goes beyond urine), as I believe greater investment in the R&D of their protocol would be better (better = better). If they're getting 100k per fighter per fight, that money should at least be doing something useful than lining dudes pockets. And yes props to Floyd for blowing this **** out of proportion

 

I know, I'm just wondering why natep is saying USADA can't detect ST? Which is not true.

 

From what I can tell he's saying that while USADA's testing is enough to detect conventional PEDs, apparently VADA has a slight variance in their protocol that allowed them to detect the PEDs in Pederson, whereas USADAs protocol would have turned out negative. The PEDs market has to stay ahead of the protocols in order for athletes to get away with it which is why I've been saying more testing isn't necessarily better. Better testing is better.

 

Lamont tested for Synthetic Testosterone which USADA has detected in other athletes before, and suspended them. Mainly cyclists.

VADA is very new (about a year old) so I'm sure it will take awhile before it gets picked up mainstream.

 

So is Peterson/Khan is still on? :huh

 

If anything, this should prove that Roach is a clean trainer. He's the one in charge of Khan, correct?

 

exactly

exactly

 

I just read the Conte article, it's really good

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/boxing/post/_/id/1423/peterson-khan-ii-off-victor-conte-told-us-so

From this I can speculate from your scenario that those cyclists who did get caught could have simply gone overboard with the ST and exceeded the 4:1 ratio per USADA, or the 6:1 per NSAC, which apparently triggers a red flag in their protocol and they conduct a more stringent test that Conte has been championing called a CIR test, and I assume VADA conducts this test regardless of the T/E ratio which is why Peterson got caught.

 

No, T/E ratios have different tolerance per state regulation, USADA/WADA caught traces in the urine. The same as Peterson. peterson's T/E ratio was acceptable but he still tested positive for a banned substance.

 

Interesting. The cyclists, right? like who, and did usada specifically mention that the test they used and that the cyclists had acceptable levels?

 

Pac said he would take the test, he never agreed to do the testing. There is a difference. Example: pac was quoted saying that he would take less then 50% but when he was asked to agree to taking less he said no it has to be 50/50. Debating if is should or shouldn't be a 50/50 fight isn't the point. I for one think it should be. The point is pac thoughout this entire thing has always said one thing then did another.

 

He was also training James Toney when he tested dirty. So what does that say?

 

The levels in Utah are compliant with Nevada so yes, it was just a urine test that found it.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2010/Mar/19/br/hawaii100319033.html