Lets play six degrees of seperation US Money ---> Osama bin Laden ---> AL-Quaeda ----> Terrorist Attacks on American Interests. Easy enough for u?? :deal
Do you know the difference between "de facto" and "de rigueur"? Or do such subtleties escape you? Pakistan is an ally on paper but the reality more complex. Pakistani groups have lauched numerous murderous attacks like the ones in Mumbia, which might have been assisted by portions of the Pakistani security forces. What does Mullah Omar have to do with it? Extremist guerilla groups like the Taliban don't rely on centralized planning to their work. Who else is performing terrorist attacks on Pakistani soil? The girl scouts?
No I don't get what you're trying to say. You just typed a bunch of words and connected them with arrows. I seems like you want to go full blown conspiracy theory but you don't have any evidence and you know it would make you sound like an idiot.
Exactly, might have been, Its all speculation, and if you hate paksitani's in general, you'll most probably side with all negative perceptions regarding the situation at hand. And far as their support for America/Britain, i think the billion dollars of aid handed to them every year may count for something lol. and on top of that, Alowing any country to bomb you're own citizens, is pretty much a strong Ally. Mullah Omar is/was regarded as the supreme commander of the Taliban who were in charge of large parts of Afghanitan before the US Led invasion, the one that was recognised by the Paksitan Government at the time. So bascially what you're saying is that the current so called Taliban has eff all at all to do with that Taliban,a nsd in essence are nothign but a rag tag bunch of criminal misfits, who are labelled as Taliban for dramatic effect.
You sound pretty paranoid about people "hating" Pakistanis. Look, I think once again you're not understand the difference between an ally on paper and an ally in true. During the cold war India was nominally aligned with the Soviet Union, but were they really an enemy of NATO? No. The US and Britain give aid to anyone. They give aid to Palestine. Doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of who we're friends with or not. Right now we're friends with the Pakistani government but there's a lot more to the realities on the ground besides the government. There are extremist elements with a fairly broad base of support and they could yet topple the government. No I'm not saying that the Taliban today has nothing to do with the original. But the whole idea of a "cell" is that it shares the goals and methods of the group at large but is not neccesarily tied neatly to them in some formal way. That's the way a lot of terrorist militias work. Anyway, it was you that was trying to claim that the Taliban weren't responsible for most of the attacks in Pakistan. Any reason why you would claim that?
Jeeez what an idiot, u go from claiming the taliban today has nothign to do with the original, and then claim that i say the Taliban dont commit most acts of terrorism in pakistan? If you'd bothered to read, you'd realise i was simply insinuating that the thought of Mullah Omar co-ordinating attacks on some shitty village from some super villian base in a cave is ridiculous. You've probably managed to get my phone line tapped cos of you're bull**** question! :twisted: So i'll end it here, bascially Haroon can fight for who he wants at the olmpics, his passport will ensure he'll make more money fighitng on his brothers undercards than either of us will ever manage, and thats the bottom line.
The Taliban were in Talks to join the UN and had started negociations with the US because of an oil/gas contract which ultimatley went to an argentinian company and not a US one. Also the Americans supported the afgan mujahideen against the russians I don't think it should be asked of any nation's public to support another countries representative, but that is in the case of natiion Vs. nation (like olympics etc) but at the same time if a guy is a good boxer, stand up guy etc then who cares about nationality? [quoteSp_Immortal;6212073]You seem to wrapped up in a contradictory arguement. How can someone cry and whine about not getting the loyalty of his countrymen when he has shown no loyalty in return? It's a self centered and self serving argument.[/quote] who is arguing that? But the simple point is a lot of Racism exists amongst people who support England/British teams. I know of an example an Indian chap went into a pub during an England Game and when he shouted "C'mon England" someone said "F£££ off you paki" exactly my point. They should do what is best for their careers at the end of the day instead of having to feel like they need to bend over backwards to please these people......because they never will it seems
The fact that the Taliban were in talks with the US doesn't mean that they supported them. And the afghan mujahadeen and the Taliban aren't the same thing. The Mujahadeen were simply "freedom fighters" fighting the soviets when they invaded. Some elements of the mujahadeen may have joined the taliban, but the Taliban is a brutal political movement with ridiculous backward ideologies, including "Under the Taliban regime, Sharia law was interpreted to ban a wide variety of activities hitherto lawful in Afghanistan: employment, education and sports for women, movies, television, videos, music, dancing, hanging pictures in homes, clapping during sports events, kite flying, and beard trimming" I'm not racist in the slightest, and It's not racist what I've been saying. But the facts are clear, 75% of all terrorist plots on the UK originate in pakistan, and it's probably the same for most other western countries.
why is he such a d1ckhead? It's pretty clear that the OP is a Khan hater and has issues with Pakistanis just like yourself. This thread should be in the general lounge.
Pretty sure Pakistans best boxer at the moment shares the division with Haroon. Dont know how good either are though but its not as though he could just waltz up and take the available spot.
Based on what this thread has degenerated into, the lounge would appear to be a more suitable venue for it.