Amir Vs Algieri May 29

sorry pal but he ducked thaxton and murray on the way up because it was a risk fact
then ducked the champion that is brook because its a risk fact

so i have to disagree you cant claim something until you have proved it to be so imo

 

Nah ash come on.... thaxton & Murray were pointless fights for Khan, let's be honest - it's a business yeh? We both agree on that I'm sure.. So, Amir with his profile, he was always destined for bigger things, major things ( which he went on to achieve) so why sit around at domestic level ( admittedly both would of gave amir a brillaint fight, maybe even won) but for what? A couple of grand? Nah , his advisors/management looked past them for good reason..

As for Brook, well.... I'd say it's a sign of the times that the fight hasn't happened,build it up etc... But there's no denying the longer the fight goes on, the more it makes. And just because the papers say the fight was offered, well that's not gospel is it.

Even so, if you say brook is above him, well that's 1 , I'll give you froch as two.. That still puts him as arguably the best in uk pound for pound, depending on your style

 

stopped reading there mate , i first and foremost am a boxing fan :yep and i expect more i am afraid

explain presscott then

only a selected few get a chance mostly inferior fighters with notable disadvantages sorry why is that the bar for khan but lets say not for brook or murray or bellew or cleverly what about froch even

they all had to fight all comers for area titles , english titles , british titles ,commanwealth , euro , before getting anywhere near a world title sorry mate that just will not wash

that is along hard road one in which khan bypassed

 

Khan ducked Murray and Thaxton but has beaten Maidana,Alexander and Judah looooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

but lost to presscott and some would say limond

 

did you not like degale groves :think

but what we should have said was james won gold and should of gone on to bigger things straight away or am i missing something:huh

 

Yeh he bypassed the normal area, English .... So on route, as will Joshua , Campbell & so many others ... The reason for that is that part of the journey is A) to build up the boxer to the level required at the next step and B) to build up the fan base, which he already had. It's as simple as that, why would he need to fight for the Central area title in front of 800 people, when he had a TV deal which was giving him major publicity and I'd guess a lot more money.

Don't forget, the path now take by the 2012 Olympic class, was brand new then, there was no Matchroom
Pr machine.. And people didn't want to see the bright young amir slug it out with john Murray.


As for Prescott , he got fully blown away, under estimated his opponent & paid dearly for it but let's not make Breidis out to be a bum, he's been in there with good company after all ( Crawford, alvarado , Abril - that's 3 world champions right there)

 

mate its boxing

he would have been on itv fighting for theses titles and taking the same pay bracket lets not kid our selves

presscott is a journeyman / finge level gatekeeper nothing more lets say a carson jones type fighter

do you not think joshua and campbell will not fight for a british title really :!:

and people did want to see him slug it with murray and thaxton i acn assure you just like people wanted to see witter hatton , joe and froch you know like froch and groves did you not like that :huh

 

I'm not saying that because Khan bypassed the domestic scene that any fights there would of been pointless , or not entertaining... What I'm saying, is they were not nescessary ..

Degale groves was , because they both had a lot too learn (not just in the ring but publicity wise too) & as was proved they actually needed the fight before moving on, some fighters do & some don't - although degale got gold & khan silver, there's no arguing that khan got the more publicity & as such was more used to the limelight.

Also worth noting amirs last amateur fight , against kindelan
Was televised live, as a main event.. And he was fighting the greatest fighter of that code in his era, as an 18year old lid

 

stopped reading there mate

so did khan he said as much when he left roach

 

the last time i checked it was boxing not a popularity contest :huh

 

Say what you will about prescott but he was a relevant fighter at the time, a known name who'd give rounds, a learning fight... And khan came unstuck.no arguments from me there..

AJ more than likely will fight for the Lonsdale yeh but that means nothing... As the hw scene, well strong together 6-7 wins and anyone can contest it pretty much.

Campbell , nah I reckon he will by pass it, because he'll fight coyle and move onto the bigger scene , on much similar way to what khan did.. He will leave the Lonsdale to the likes of Scott cardle - who don't have the profile he does.

No, I remember that there was no great clamour for khan Murray/thaxton.. There was for witter hatton, mainly cos 1 of them spoke about it an awful lot , in fact same with joe - froch / no great demand, just one person shouting about it.

As for froch groves, be serious , myself included when the first fight was made I was shocked as I seen NO reason for it at all ... Totally shocked, the second was a different story obv but people weren't screaming for froch - groves 1 until sky sports went into overdrive for it. That's a fact right there

 

i disagree with most of what you put there , we will have to disagree

you ask any fighter what thier british title means :yep

 

I know what the Lonsdale belt means to most.. But you ask them whether they'd rather do 12 rounds at the Oldham leisure centre against Danny the ex bricklayer turned boxer in a British eliminator for £7k or 12 rounds in Madison square garden against marco knockyerblockov for the wbo intercontinental flip flop title for £20k ... We know who he's going for

 

but it does not have to always be the ex cabbie / bricklayer

groves and degale set the bar

**** sake you think crolla fought for peanuts or many other british fighters when fighting or defending the title , you level commands you re pay

same with most things in life

groves and degale got nearlt to the tune of half a mill iirc i could be mistaken

there was intrest which lead to demand which intern think how that will play when they meet further down the line , it will only be good for boxing


unlike khans next fight unfortunatley