Amsterdam, how big of a load did you drop in your pants during the second round?

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  1. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Great call, Amsterdam...

    and good and true post, Ambition
     
  2. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik is not a one punch knockout artist.
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Pavlik definitley goes on the suspect chin list, it's not like Jermain is a serious hitter to begin with, that was the only surprising element of the fight right there, otherwise, it went to plan and the pressure from Pavlik set in eventually and that's the end of that.

    And I didn't say that was the only flush right hand, I said it was one of the only FULLY sat down shots that landed perfectly clean, many of the other blows were partially blocked or Pavlik wasn't sitting down on them fully.

    And Jack, Pavlik's KO ratio is great, but he ALWAYS wears down an opponent, happened with Miranda and Zertuche also. I am not claiming Taylor has a 'glass' chin, but I am saying his chin came into the equation, like I said it would, when Pavlik landed his best right hand, because he was essentially out on his feet.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Exactly, the guy can ****ing hit, who is to say otherwise, but in what recent bout has he not first worn down the opponent?

    This is what people do not get sometimes, all KO's are not the same and Jermain's jaw isn't glass, it's in the 'average' rating for me, which is workable but obviously not solid enough when you have a **** defence and are terribly flawed all around with poor survival skills.
     
  5. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    Another thing, did anyone other than me thought the officiating was horrible. He let a lot of bulls**t go on the clinches and exchanges. Well he let Pavlik get away with a lot of cheap shots rather. The stoppage was fine to whoever thought it was premature. JT was done. Pavlik put him 2 bed, so I wont argue that. S**t got me kind of tight that Jermain lost to limtited ass kelly pavlik. He's always making fights harder for himself than it has 2 be
     
  6. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you still doing the post fight jermain tayor assesment and the other assesments?

    i put some vcash on pavlik so i almost dropped a big one in the 2nd:lol:
     
  7. MrStayman

    MrStayman Active Member Full Member

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    I thought the officiating was fine. He was quicker to break up the clinches then the estrada-berto ref was.
     
  8. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Not that I would question your chin-checking abilities, but even if Pavlik did go down - he came back well. He seemed a bit struck by the importance of the fight, and made a few mistakes - I think he has proven a pretty good chin priorly, but lets see...
     
  9. Rickypr18

    Rickypr18 Active Member Full Member

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    I second that. But who cares?? He won the fight.
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I put some emphasis on Taylor's chin and I stand by it, if he fights another puncher in the future, he will get KOed, just like tonight, but if it's at SMW, it will be smoother and quicker, because the top 8 or so at SMW are much better fighters than Pavlik.

    Now, the biggest emphasis was Taylor's inability to handle pressure effectively. He did not keep good poise the entire night because of it and with his athletic ability and superior speed to Pavlik he would have won had he had the skill and mentality to keep poise and pick his shots well, but he could not do so, because the pressure disrupts him and he cannot keep a game plan.

    This was evident, if you can't see that then why am I bothering here?

    My analysis was on target.
     
  11. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I would say they both have good chins
     
  12. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're bothering here because your analysis was shaky. I don't know which fight you were watching, but Taylor looked to me like he was picking his shots very well. And you admitted yourself that you felt that Taylor blocked many of Pavlik's punches, so how do you feel that Taylor was having trouble handling his pressure when he was arguably WINNING the fight? If there was anything Taylor had trouble with it was Pavlik's power.
     
  13. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    I agree with that. Both took some bgshots and stood up.
     
  14. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Taylor could not keep poise well under pressure, he was too wild at times, was not picking his shots like he should and when the pressure finally set in, he was beginning to get walked down and further fell apart.

    This is what I said would happen, because he landed on Pavlik, a man with a horrible defence, he was automatically picking his shots like he should?:lol:

    He fell apart and could not keep poise or a gameplan.
     
  15. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Pavlik needs to move his head more...he stands so straight up