Amsterdam, how big of a load did you drop in your pants during the second round?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by RAMPAGE0017, Sep 29, 2007.


  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Taylor has never been a puncher, so this definitley at least raises some eyebrows about Pavlik's chin. I am not calling it 'shaky', he got up and finished the job, but we will have to gauge it well in the future.
     
  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    No, he's never been known as a puncher, but he has power. He's got decently heavy hands. You're right though, we will know more about Pavlik as he faces Abraham or another big puncher.
     
  3. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yet was arguably winning the fight? :huh

    Taylor must be better than we'd all imagined if he can " fall apart " and " not keep a gameplan " and still come within a nose-hair of not only knocking Pavlik out, but potentially win on points, as well.
     
  4. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wow, didn't take long for everyone to forget about Edison Miranda. :lol:
     
  5. MrStayman

    MrStayman Active Member Full Member

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    As Lennox pointed out, Taylor was showing more power with his straight rights than Miranda was with his looping shots. So, it's not too surprising that he felt it more in this fight.
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Did my prediction NOT state that it would take a few rounds for the pressure to set in and Taylor to unravel? Which meaning that he would probably be ahead unless Pavlik was outlanding, which I made no comment about that.

    The KD round offset the effective use of pressure for the next several, but he regained control and it only took 2 rounds of putting the heat on well to finally end it.

    Again, child, my prediction and analysis was very much on target.

    HOWEVER -

    Brooklyn1550's was even better, much congratulations to him for being 100% spot on.
     
  7. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    It was the left hook that started the Pavlik knockdown.
     
  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Pavlik stood up to some huge right hands from Miranda, but he can be hurt which was evident by the 2nd round tonight. I thought Taylor was going to end it - what a statement that would have been!
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Yes, a guy who was terrible off the backfoot and not getting the right amount of levarage(which is needed for his big bombs) didn't do very well.

    Nobody is saying he's glass, we are saying it's an eye opener and we need a further gauge, Pavlik's been on the floor in the past against non impressive punchers.
     
  10. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No need to get touchy now, bud. The fact of the matter is.. Taylor never unraveled that entire fight until Pavlik connected with the right hand that would go on to initiate the final knock-out combination.

    As I said.. in the end the only thing Taylor ended up having trouble with was Pavlik's power.. every other assessment you made wasn't DEAD wrong, but it was not as correct as your blinding hatred for Taylor wants you to believe. :good
     
  11. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    pavlik really kind of shocked the world in a sense. B/C i didnt think he was gon win, and he may have made believers out of a lot of people. He shocked a lot of peole, did anyone peep the look Lennox had on his face at the end of the fight lol. He was lookin like wtd just happened here lol. BUt like Amsterdamn said dont get it twisted. Pavlik is still very limited and needs a lot of work defensively. So please dont overrate him
     
  12. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We're moving to contradiction now? You claimed that you felt Pavlik had a sturdy chin SPECIFICALLY because he took Miranda's shots, are you going to deny that now?

    Was his head almost removed by the said punchers?
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    We have new evidence in hindsight. Have you never heard of a 're-assessment'?

    :patsch

    And by saying it's 'sturdy', I am saying it's 'unbreakable'? No. This bout proved that it's up for a re-assessment, which is what we are all talking about.
     
  14. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What I'm saying is.. do you now believe Miranda is not a hard puncher?
     
  15. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    It's pretty simple. They trained for Taylor's right hand and ended up getting rocked by the left hook.

    Pavlik didn't see it, and it caught him flush in the face. Watch the tape.