An Early MMA fighter Could Defeat a Boxer

Hey, god damn dumbass....take this to the MMA Section...!!!

 

The rules favor wrestlers.

To make it favor a boxer - no gloves just hand wraps.

 

Yawn..........

This has been discussed to death. Why people insist and always starting this tired debate?

 

There was a boxer in the first UFC, Art Jimmerson (Granted he wasn't anything great, or really even decent).

 

Well, the best boxer to do mma was?

You don't even know.

Jeremy Williams 7/0

Destroyed all of the grapplers

(No charge for that, YouTube it)

 

Holly holm just put this myth to rest

 

Holm cross-trains. She is an MMA fighter with a (kick)boxing base.

 

Jeremy Williams has a black belt in Judo. He IS a grappler.

And not only a grappler, but a grappler who threw Lennox Lewis around like a ragdoll when the two got into a tiff during sparring:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxfaOOWNHKg

 

Jeremy sucks at grappling
I met him in Honolulu when the us Olympic boxing team came thru on the way to the worlds in Australia.

Delahoya, Montel Griffith, Sergio Reyes and a dozen other fighters.

He may have wrestled in high school but compared to his boxing pedigree his wrestling is a junior college drop out vs his boxing as a professor from Harvard.

JW kicked mma ass.

 

Sounds like JW ... IS an MMA fighter

 

Why is it so hard for people to understand that a boxer wins in boxing and an mma guy wins in mma. In a street fight who knows as some mma skills u would not want to use on the street but no doubt being good at either (not world class) gives u a huge advantage vs your average bar room brawlers. Ive seen small guy ko some big lump with a reputation just because they knew how to throw a punch
But back to mma vs boxing two different sports that both require high skill levels

 

Yep, give the top boxers in the world a a little time to train and a little experience, and they would dominate the UFC.

Couldn't say the same for mixed martial artists going into boxing. They'd get absolutely destroyed at the highest level.

 

Maybe, maybe not. Top guys from other combat sports rarely dominate after crossing over to MMA. I'm talking gold medalists in Olympic wrestling and judo, top JKA karate competitors, Muay Thai lumpinee/rajadamnern champions, kickboxing champions, etc.

The best guys usually aren't the absolute top contenders in their original sports, but people with some other x-factors that make them good at transitioning to MMA.

Well, yeah. But many MMA guys started as specialists in another discipline first, just like the boxers did.



For what it's worth, journeyman-level boxers (not champions) have been trying to dominate MMA for a while. They never get very far:

Yosuke Nishijima
Roy Doliguez
Melton Bowen
Matt Skelton (also a kickboxer, but went on to accomplish a lot in boxing)
Milo Savage
James Toney
Art Jimmerson
James Warring
Rubin Williams
Eric Esch
Ray Mercer (KO'd Sylvia, lost to Kimo; call it even)
Jeremy Williams

To be fair, the closest any ex-boxer came to MMA success was probably Marcus Davis, who never won a championship but did manage to carve out a decent career for himself. However, he only did this after many years of cross-training.

There's also Muhammad Ali, who couldn't beat a guy who was literally only allowed to flop on his back and kick Ali's legs -- because of the rules that Ali had insisted upon. (Inoki nevertheless managed to score a "takedown" on Ali, which the ref immediately put a stop to.)

So a journeyman isn't going to make waves, although it depends on your definition of "journeyman" (the list above includes everything from tomato cans to fringe contenders). We haven't seen what truly elite boxers can do yet, but I don't think it'll be that different from what elite judo guys, wrestlers, kickboxers, etc. have done.

A truly elite (male) boxer who takes the sport seriously and trains long enough might be successful -- or even win the UFC belt; it wouldn't surprise me -- but I doubt he'll absolutely destroy the entire division in humiliating fashion.

 

Nice tip, the guy was able to use some basic boxing (complimented by his grappling) to check guys changing levels for takedowns with punches.

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