An exciting few months in the fight film world

A lot of nice stuff has surfaced in the past few months in the fight film world. Highlights include:

Carnera-Zupan, this is one of Carnera's last fights:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SLDGBj[/url]

Melio Bettina-McElliogot, this is one of former light heavyweight champion Melio Bettina's 1934 Golden Gloves bout with Peter McElliogott:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SAuYrE[/url]

Jack Dempsey and Billy Miske training for their championship bout in 1920. This film was shot the same day that Dempsey sparred with Greb. Sadly the man he is seen sparring with here is West Coast middleweight Marty Farrell:
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Zora Folley as an amateur winning the all forces tournament:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SLDGNb[/url]

Mickey Walker-Dave Shade 2:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/RAhfug[/url]

Georges Carpentier-Jim Sullivan, this is the earliest film footage of a Carpentier bout that I have been able to confirm. He was just 18 years old winning the European Middleweight Championship on a two round knockout:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SAuYFC[/url]

Marvin Hagler interviewed after his bout with Bennie Briscoe:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SLDGUU[/url]

16mm footage of his bout with Briscoe:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SLDGVW[/url]

Vinnie Curto apologizing to everyone for ducking Hagler:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/RAhfHx[/url]

Alternative footage of Hagler-Ford from the version commonly available:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/RAhfLt[/url]

Hagler interviewed after his bout with Lamont Lovelady:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SAuYN1[/url]

Hagler-Owens 2:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SLDH1q[/url]

An interview with Hagler after the Wigfall fight:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SAuYRY[/url]

Kid McCoy flying home after being released from prison for murder:
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Harry Greb training, taken about a year prior to the common footage of Greb:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SAuYSE[/url]
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Carpentier-Grundhoven, this film is fairly common but not in this quality or as long:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SAuYXE[/url]

Carpentier and Papke posing before their fight:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SAuZ1W[/url]
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Thil-Seelig:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SCX3GD[/url]

Loughran-Lenglet:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SCX3Kp[/url]

Full silent film starring Benny Leonard titled "Flying Fists" from 1924:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SCX3MP[/url]

Criqui-Ledoux, again, common but not in this quality or length:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SCX3Pn[/url]

Johnny Coulon training for one of his last fights:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SAuZg5[/url]
[url]https://flic.kr/p/SCX3SP[/url]

 

Many different sources.

Not really. Its short and doesnt add much beyond getting to see him move and interact which is nice.

 

Its all stuff I acquired. The Carpentier film was a nitrate film that I paid to have converted to HD digital to preserve it. Carpentier never looks great to me. He is more awkward in this film than in others, particularly his hand placement and guard. His powerful right hand is in evidence. One that is apparent to me in all of the films and photos of young Carpentier is that he was a physical freak akin to Tyson in that he developed physically into manhood at a very young age hence why he was so successful against all those grown men. Sullivan wasnt much though and his style was made to order and wide open for a right hand crazy puncher like Carpentier.

 

Stills taken from the films.

 

I always hold out hope.

 

Squires-Kling. This is the first boxing match ever filmed in Australia, 1906:
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Squires-Mike Williams, 1906:
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Floyd Patterson-Vic Brown:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/T5mQVD[/url]

Denny Moyer-Chirino:
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Ron Lyle-Bates, one of Lyles first pro bouts and I believe his first televised bout:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/T5mQN4[/url]
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Jerry Quarry-Tony Doyle:
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Ernie Terrell- Davila:
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Zora-Folley-Johnson service bout. This is a different amateur fight of Zora Folley's than the one I posted a while back:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/RQmhmF[/url]
[url]https://flic.kr/p/RQmhkt[/url]

Olson-Gavilan, complete, Id only ever seen highlights of this, it may have already been out there though:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/T1Hccq[/url]
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Zivic-Cochrane 2. A lot of people have this listed in their collection but its always a slightly different version of Zivic-Angott. This is the actual Zivic-Cochrane 2 bout that a friend of mine dug up:
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This is the Zivic-Angott bout for comparison:
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Battalino-Chocolate, this is pretty common but I dont think in this quality:
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Zale-Cerdan, this is an old 8mm home movie that someone shot from the stands of the Zale-Cerdan fight:
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Archie Moore-Howard King VI, home movie footage:
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Ray Robinson-Bob Young. This is the only footage I know of in which Robinson beats a light heavyweight:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/T6ve8U[/url]
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Criqui-Ledoux, this is an alternate version of the fight from the on I posted a while back:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/T6vehm[/url]
[url]https://flic.kr/p/T6vefC[/url]

Cerdan-Despeaux, home movie footage:
[url]https://flic.kr/p/T6veiJ[/url]

 

Its good for its age but both guys are pretty bad. I had always been curious to see Squires because he came over here so highly touted (largely off of these two fights) and then got blitzed by Burns. I thought maybe youd see some revelation or that Burns just caught him cold or something. Nope. He was just a really awkward looking guy who was fighting really inept fighters. The Australian papers even admitted that Williams was terrible and said the Kling contest was unsatisfactory (although they blamed it on an earlier rain storm that left the ring wet and slippery). I think what happened was that being these were the first two fight films shot in Australia they were novelty, got wide circulation, and got Squires an undue amount of attention as a result. I give him full credit for cashing in on it but its easy to see how he kept getting blown away after these fights.

 

The guy who filmed those fights was apparently an interesting character. For about 20 years starting in the 50s he would set up his 8mm camera in front of the TV and film fights off it. In this way he was able to preserve footage of fights that we have no other source of.