An honest assessment of Wlad vs. the ATGs results in conclusions we don't like.

As many poster already mentioned, Wlad has a strong tendency to freeze up and panic when a fighter hits him with a decent punch, even with Manny Wlad had panic attacks against Brewster in 04 and Peter in 05. I think Wlad is very strong Physically, but mentally I have my doubts.

Wlads clinching and strong jab has kept him from danger early on, leaving most fighters too beat up to compose a attack later on in the fight. I think a good pressure fighter with a great chin and a good punch can beat Wlad, will that type of a fighter come around some time soon I dont know.

 

The problem that type of fighter will have is penetrating thru Wlad's Jab or left hook (ala Austin), or even worse his right hand. After the Peter fight, he came out victorious when many people had doubts...Since he has streamed rolled his competition rarely even losing a round to Byrd, Brock, Austin & Brewster, all top contenders although not the best of comp, but nonetheless has looked excellent.

 

:yep I recall a fighter named JOE who fit that discription beating ALI ! And JOE only needed his average chin ! Come on man I make make a case like this for any champ in history ! but fact is VLADS combination of boxing ability and POWER is one of the best ever ! :deal And your to smart to fall for the panic attack in the BREW fight bull**** ! That fight stank !:smoke

 

An all time great wouldn't have hung on for dear life against Sam Peter in 2005, some refs would have probaly DQ'D him for excessive grabbing and holding...
Ross Purity, Corrie Sanders journeyman fighter's KO'D him, and a good but not great fighter in Lamon Brewester beat the hell out of him in 2004, what else can i say??:bart
Wlad dosen't have the stamina, and his chin is very shaky, Ali would have tortured him, Lennox lewis, and an 88-89 Tyson would have made hamburger out of him.
A prime 73 Foreman would have hurt him bad..
I like Wlad but he's very vulnerable, and seems to lack the mental toughness of his older brother..

 

**** happens

 

So apparently you havent seen much boxing ! Every fighter has had fights where they get gassed ! It doesnt happen when in top shape normally and it doesnt happen to VLAD at his best ! And every fighter in history with any skill has used clinching at one time or another ! And they all ( except for the ROCK ) have been beaton by people they shouldnt have lost to ! Your comments about what LL ali and MIKE would have done to him are also rediculous but I wont get into that !:deal

 

Wlad was in A-1 shape, "his best" when he fought Peter in 05 just 2 short years ago, and looked like he was more in a mood to slow dance than fight his ass was deposited on the canvas 3 times in the process:deal if you seriously think Wlad would have beaten Ali or Lewis in their prime you don't know **** about boxing, Vitaly was tougher than Wlad and LL sliced him up like a Thanksgiving turkey...

 

You really havent seen much boxing have you ! You should take a look at ALI struggling with some crusierweights and lightheavweights in the process ! Oh and pay attention to his constent pulling down on his opponents heads and his lack of power ! And for the record did you notice by any chance how good VLADS stamina was against PETER ! Your rant is rediculous !:deal

 

its hard to evaluate todays heavyweights compared to the ATG'S of the past considering the mediocre fighters they face everytime they get in the ring!

 

Are you saying Wlad improved, or Corrie Sanders improved?

because not many boxers improve by becoming semi-retired and turning 37.

If Wlad, than that's fair enough, as there's no doubt that he's improved IMO.

However, against Sam Peter, there was still evidence that anybody that punches back and creates pressure, can really rattle Wlad.

 

But Rahman KO'ed Sanders. WALD ran from Rahman because he knows what would happen if he ever got him in the ring.....























:smoke

 

It seems that Wlad is most vunerable against he Frazier/yson type of presure guys...Even as good as Holmes was, per say..Wlad would feel more comfortable against him and fare better than an agressive fighter, even if the pessure fighter is not as good as Holmes

 

As you stated yourself in your post, Austin wasnt the best competition, he ****ing froze when Wlad hit him with the first decent shot of the fight. Remember after the fight, Wlads saying this was not the oppenent I wanted, he was a mandatory. In so many words Wlad was saying, this guys **** but I have to fight him to keep the title, that was one of the few times I respected Wlad for what he had to say.

Wlad is at the top of his game, but I still believe he is one punch away from losing and being at the bottom again after his lose against Brewster in 04. I dont see many fighters having a good chance of beating Wlad, but if Povetkin or Chagaev gets the chance to face him, I think it might be interesting and also competitive IMO.