An honest comparison between Lomachenko & Crawford

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  1. Brujo

    Brujo Member Full Member

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    Argumentum ad populum.
     
  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Neener neener? :duh
     
  3. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    How about you just learn to read.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Re. their respective power

    A post of mine from earlier today

    Khan hasn't fought a world class fighter in 3 years, hasn't beaten one in 4, has only fought twice in 3 years one of said 2 fights being a 39 second blow out, was dropped, went life and death with and nearly came a cropper in his last fight against a journeyman with a KO 38%. Not a good look. Neither is not having fought a world class opponent in 3 years either.

    Crawford needs to push for a spectacular HL reel one punch KO finish in this fight for 2 different reasons.

    1. I don't recall him ever scoring one in any of his 12 world title fights (ie. when he started fighting live bodies, relatively live in some cases) which is odd given he has a reputation of a bit of a puncher and he often has a significant or considerable weight and reach advantage over his opponents. He might have scored one during his pre-world title fights but I can't think of one among them off the top of my head either.

    Here's ''non puncher'' Loma scoring 2 spectacular HL reel KOs against opponents who not only outweighed him by 7lbs (or maybe even more in Crolla's case) but one was a reigning world champion (Loma's first fight at the weight) and the other a former world champion and both of them were very durable fighters too.

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    Why can't puncher Bud do that to any of his opponents, most of whom he's heavier and longer than?

    2. Because Khan has been KO'd x 3 and been dropped many times in many different fights and had a reputation for being chinny when he was in his prime, let alone now ie. the post-savage HL reel right hand from hell Clenbuterol bomb from a 190lb juiced to high heaven Clenelo shot to **** Khan.




    So ''non puncher'' Loma has scored 2 HL reel one punch out cold or almost out cold KOs against opponents he was giving away at least 7lbs to and was at a reach disadvantage against, both of whom were either current or former world champions and are very durable, but Bud never has despite him often having a significant weight and reach advantage over his opponents.

    How many more spectacular HL reel one punch KOs would Loma have on his CV if he had a significant weight and reach advantage over his opponents like Crawford often does? Yeah he had a significant weight advantage over Rigo but the Cuban is one of the greatest defensive fighters of all time and Loma wasn't putting much power in his shots and trying to KO him.

    And Loma was fighting injured (or hadn't recovered fully from an injury and wasn't able to throw his most powerful punch much ie. the right hook that he scored 2 spectacular HL reel KOs with) in 2 of his fights that have gone the distance (Pedraza and Piriyapinyo). No way the much bigger Pedraza would last the distance against Loma with 2 good arms and Piriyapinyo, who Loma fought one-handed for half the fight IIRC, had already been dropped by Loma when the later started to turn the heat up which he couldn't maintain because he injured his hand 2 rounds later.

    Crawford who was a gigantic 135 pounder who rehydrated as much as 18lbs when he campaigned down there didn't stop Klimov who he had 9lbs on, Beltran who he had 6lbs on, or Burns (don't know he weights for that one). I'd back lightweight Loma to stop at least 2 of those guys if not all 3 and this is despite him only rehydrating about 3lbs after the weigh in at 135 (he looked very healthy and full-faced at the weigh in for his last fight) and him being the significantly lighter man against 2 of those guys, and slightly lighter against the other. Beltran, who Crawford had 6lbs on, would have about 9lbs on Loma and Burns would have a least that on him. But imagine what Loma would do to them if he had a 6-9lb advantage over them?

    Loma scored spectacular one punch HL reel KOs against 2 significantly heavier fighters at 135, both of whom were very durable and either current or former world champions, Crawford hasn't done that once against opponents he usually has a significant weight advantage over.

    And the Linares KO was a one punch finish (no one has KO'd Linares with a body shot and before and has anyone who was at least 7-8lbs lighter than him ever KO'd him? Loma fighting with a serious shoulder injury from the 2nd round onward scored a one-punch finish against a much heavier opponent in what was Loma's first fight at the weight and a super talented one who held every physical advantage over him, something Crawford knows nothing about.

    Moves up in weight to 130 and scores a spectacular HL reel one-punch KO against the 7lb heavier Martinez who was a reigning world champion

    Moves up to 135 and score a pretty spectacular HL reel one-punch finish against Linares who had at least 7lbs on him and was a reigning world champion, whilst fighting with a serious injury for most of the fight.
     
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  5. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Id even say Loma has better ring IQ also. Loma is simply on another level. Nobody 135 and under is beating him no time soon. The Salido fight was fluke and he still nearly won that fight.
     
  6. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loma got beaten by old Salido just saying
     
  7. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    Thank you for pointing it out like a troll.

    I mean Bud only fought a guy with a 1-4 record in his 2nd fight and didn't fight a guy with a winning record until his 13th fight.
     
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  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    And in his very next fight beat a better fighter than Bud has in his entire career.

    That's the thing about tough matchmaking...you may not go unbeaten, but you'll usually wind up with a better resume

    To not get his flush by Rigo, who has exceptional accuracy and timing, is special. To make GRJ, who has perhaps the fastest handspeed P4P in boxing miss that much, is special.

    Bud is a superb all around fighter, but he hasn't produced that level of defensive performance against the caliber of fighters Loma has.
     
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  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i honestly cant separate them. when i add up who theyve beat, how they beat them, and how they stack up vs their top competition, i got em neck and neck. had bud not also outboxed khan, as i expected, i would have put loma ahead. had crolla gone 12 last week, i would have bud ahead. thats how close i got these guys.
    luckily my #3 and 4 guys are ready to create that separation. if the universe lines up, we could get mikey-loma in september, and maybe spence-crawford not long after.
     
  10. Boxcel

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    I give more points for outboxing people when you have a reach disadvantage. So far to my knowledge Crawford hasn't gone up against someone with longer reach.