An older All time welter weight torunament

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  1. Mendoza

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    FIRST ROUND

    JOSE NAPOLES KO3 Saesnak Muangsurin

    SUGAR RAY ROBINSON KO7 Bruno Arcari

    AARON PRYOR TKO12cuts Carlos Palomino

    HENRY ARMSTRONG TKO3 Luis Rodriguez

    EMILE GRIFFITH W15(U) Roberto Duran

    THOMAS HEARNS TKO5(swelling) Davey Green

    SUGAR RAY LEONARD TKO4 Clyde Gray

    TOMMY RYAN KO8 Billy Graham

    FELIX TRINIDAD W15(U) Billy Gibbons

    KID GAVILAN W15(U) Wilfred Benitez

    PIPINO CUEVAS TKO4 Donald Curry

    CARMEN BASILIO W15(U) Barney Ross

    ANTONIO CERVANTES W15(U) Art Aragon

    FRANKIE RANDALL TKO6cuts Ike Quartey

    PERNELL WHITAKER W15(U) John Stracey

    JIMMY McLARNIN W15(U) Julio Caesar Chavez


    SECOND ROUND

    JOSE NAPOLES W15(U) Emile Griffith

    SUGAR RAY ROBINSON TKO5 Thomas Hearns

    KID GAVILAN W15(U) Aaron Pryor

    HENRY ARMSTRONG TKO2 Carmen Basilio

    SUGAR RAY LEONARD W15(U) Frankie Randall

    JIMMY McLARNIN WDisq9 Tommy Ryan

    PERNELL WHITAKER TKO7cuts Felix Trinidad

    ANTONIO CERVANTES W15(U) Pipino Cuevas


    QUARTERFINALS

    JOSE NAPOLES VS. KID GAVILAN

    Napoles showed that he meant business early, connecting with some heavy shots early. The Kid hung around though, and landed his patented bolo punch on a number of occasions in the middle rounds. By the tenth, Gavilan was tiring, and Jose started piling on the points. Gavilan looked the worse for wear after the fight, with cuts over his eye and in his mouth. The decision: 145-143, 146-143, 145-140. NAPOLES W15(U) Gavilan

    SUGAR RAY ROBINSON VS. JIMMY McLARNIN

    Mc Larnin looked to keep his string of upsets going against Sugar Ray. Jimmy started fast, and was eager to mix it up. Robinson looked lazy, and didn’t mount much of an offensive until late in the third. By the seventh, both were trading punches on the inside, with neither fighter taking a backward step. The 10th through 12th rounds were slow, but a stinging left hook opened a large gash over Ray’s right eye in the 13th. Seeing his own blood, Sugar Ray opened up on McLarnin, winning the last two rounds handily. The decision: 145-144 McLarnin, 145-144, 146-142 Robinson. ROBINSON W15(S) McLarnin

    HENRY ARMSTRONG VS. PERNELL WHITAKER

    This was one of the most highly anticipated bouts of the tourney. As usual, Armstrong windmilled his way to Whitaker in the first, and quickly had him in trouble. Whitaker weathered the storm, but was obviously uncomfortable with being forced to fight. In the third, Whitaker landed a solid hook right on the button, but Hammerin Hank kept wading in, in the process landing a four punch combination that forced Pernell to hold on. Armstrong continued to close the distance, and Whitaker was slowing down. In the seventh, with Sweet Pea’s eyes rapidly closing, Armstrong scored a knockdown. Whitaker took punishment for another round and a half, before trainer Lou Duva stopped the fight. ARMSTRONG TKO8swelling Whitaker

    SUGAR RAY LEONARD VS. ANTONIO CERVANTES

    "Kid Pambele" shocked all observers by being the only Junior Welter to make it to the Quarterfinals. He looked to make the most of his chance against Ray Leonard. Leonard was hurt in the first two rounds, and the fight looked like an upset in the making. But a lightning fast left hook in the third round changed Cervantes’ plans. Antonio was dropped twice, and the bell saved him from certain defeat. Cervantes gamely tried to fight back, but his legs were just not there. Sugar Ray continued to stalk, and finally, an eight punch combo ended the fight at 2:24 of the seventh. LEONARD KO7 Cervantes


    SEMIFINALS

    JOSE NAPOLES VS. SUGAR RAY LEONARD

    Sugar vs. Butter. Ray looked to continue his power punching ways in round one, dropping Napoles for a six count with a quick overhand right. Napoles recovered quickly though, and the two boxers engaged in a brawl for the next four rounds, with each man landing his share of haymakers. Leonard got Napoles in trouble again in the sixth, and Jose returned the favor in the seventh. By now Leonard’s right eye was starting to close, courtesy of "Mantequilla"’s left hand. Sugar led the fight halfway through, but then Napoles made a run. In the ninth, Leonard hit the canvas and looked as surprised as the capacity crowd. Napoles’ body punches began to wear Ray down, and Sugar’s eyes continued to look bad. Leonard’s vision was obviously affected, as he began to miss more and more punches. Leonard once again heard trainer Angelo Dundee say "You’re blowing it kid", before round thirteen, and Sugar Ray tried to mount one last offensive. It was not to be. Napoles had radar on his gloves, and the fight was stopped by ringside doctor Flip Homansky between rounds. NAPOLES TKO13swelling Leonard.

    SUGAR RAY ROBINSON VS. HENRY ARMSTRONG

    It would be hard to top the excitement of the Napoles-Leonard fight, but with Henry Armstrong, you’re guaranteed action. As Hank rushed in, Robinson drilled him with an overhand right. Sugar expected him to fall, but he instead popped Ray with a couple of hard combinations, hurting him. Sugar Ray wisely used his jab to keep Armstrong away, but he still wound up getting hit with some haymakers. At the end of the third, Ray landed a brutal three punch combo which made Armstrong take his first backward step. But the resilient Armstrong kept smokin’, hurting Ray with a combo of his own at the end of the fifth. The pattern continued, but then a counterpunch by Armstrong dropped Ray for an eight count in round eight. Robinson looked dazed and tired in the ninth, but he stood toe to toe with Hank, and scored some big shots. Sugar Ray met Armstrong in the middle of the ring to start round ten, and landed his first two shots, depositing Henry on the seat of his pants. Armstrong staggered up at the count of nine, but he might as well have stayed down. Ray, a brilliant finisher, forced the intervention of referee Ruby Goldstein at the 2:26 mark. The scores at the time of the stoppage: 87-83, 88-83,88-84 all for Armstrong. ROBINSON TKO10 Armstrong

    FINAL - UNDISPUTED ALL-TIME WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP

    JOSE NAPOLES VS. SUGAR RAY ROBINSON

    As in the other fights, there was little feeling out process between these two boxing legends. Napoles landed a short uppercut, hurting Robinson, and Ray answered with a hard combo of his own. Napoles opted to box in the second, but Ray had other ideas, finding the range with the left hook, and using it to his advantage. Sugar Ray ‘s shots took the steam out of Napoles’ attack, and by the third, Jose was in bad shape, unable to hold Robinson off . A quick barrage of punches sent Napoles down for a ten count at the 1:51 mark of the third. Your winner and ALL-TIME WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION...SUGAR RAY ROBINSON!!!


    >>>>Thoughts?

    I cant see Napoles getting to the finals by beating Sugar Ray Leonard!

    Griffith over Duran?

    The winner is fine.
     
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  2. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hell, you didn't forget any good welterweights on this list. I actually think most of your outcomes are pretty accurate. A few I disagree with though, like Armstrong stopping Basilio in 2. You're probably right that SRR is crowned king of this tournament tho.
     
  3. Devon

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    Ray Leonard beats napoles
    Robinson takes longer to beat hearns about 10-13 round stoppage after hearns has tired
    And Whittaker beats Armstrong
    IMO
     
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  4. mcvey

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    Awful just awful.
    Nobody stopped Graham in fact nobody even floored him! Pryor fought who at welter?
    Ditto Cervantes. Armstrong stopping Basilio in2 rds!
    Who cut Trinidad? WTF is Billy Gibbons
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    To clarify this isn't mine. It's an older welterweight tourney. I have a few different ones arrived. In addition to picks i disagree with, I don't agree with the results from some of the winners . For example I agree that Armstrong would beat Basilio, just not in 2 rounds!
     
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  6. William Walker

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    Graham was dropped once.
    Billy Gibbons was the gtr player for ZZ Top.
     
  7. William Walker

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    Ah, I see. I was a little worried about some of those outcomes. I think Armstrong would beat Basilio too, but I think it would be last-minute. Basilio was bigger, so Armstrong would be fighting uphill. I think he would RTD Basilio right before the last round in a tremendous fight that sees no end in see-sawing.