An Overlooked Quality In Legends

I was just pre-empting some Trinidad understating, you know how it is.

 

Lamotta- jab and natural size. He wasn't tall but fought at 185 as an amateur. He was big for a MW.

Holmes- an arsenal of dirty tactics and the ability to almost always get away with them

Gene Fullmer - i think he's under rated as a ring general.

 

Agree wholeheartedly.


Ali & his finishing ability. Once he got a guy ready to go, they went. Most folks look at punching power for results and never consider finishing ability. That's why a guy like Ali could get ko's over top heavies difficult to stop and a much bigger hitter like Shavers could not ko top level opponents.

Accuracy. Michalczewski and Lopez are the best in recent times. Or take a guy like Napoles or Louis from years past. Very very difficult to deal with an opponent that simply lands all the punches they throw.

 

I think it's sometimes lost just how hard Sugar Ray Leonard could hit. He wasn't the first person to stop Benitez and Hearns for nothing, and we saw what he did to Davey Green.

 

Durans chin i shake my head when involved in fantasy matchups here how many times i see certain fighters picked to KO Duran.

Listen the only one capable of Knocking him out was the one that did. There just arent too many fighters in history MW and under id pick to KO Duran. Certainly no one Welter or below. At JM Hearns had the style and range to excucute his KO along with being one of the greatest punchers ever(also Duran looked out of it). I even think hed be too tough and SLICK to get kod by other great mw bombers of the past.

 

Duran said Leonard hit very hard and if im not mistaken said he hurt him.

The best Chin PFP or best chin period?

 

Hearns was only stopped by good punchers...I don't think his chin was bad as often advertised either.

I think the way in which Leonard did it was scary, the left hook was what really shut out the lights...and Green was unconscious for a few minutes.

Benitez had already been in desperate trouble against Curry and someone else before the Leonard fight, his chin wasn't nearly impressive as his defensive maneuvering. It's still quite a feat to stop the man at his peak, and many of Ray's punches were moving El Radar that night.

The best chin Ray cracked? I'm not sure, I don't think he cracked any iron chins like Hearns did, but then again I wasn't suggesting Ray hit as hard as the Hitman. I think the way in which he scored a lot of knockouts, even against lesser opposition suggested he could hit very hard. Andy Price, Dave Green, Pete Ranzanzy, and stopping the much bigger Lalonde remains relatively impressive to me.

 

I guess you have a point he never kod any legendary chins. However he did drop Super tough Viruet,stopped Muniz(retired in corner) and Kevin Howard was stopped all those fighters had pretty good chins.

The thing with Leonard was when he wanted to he was a big puncher, but he had bad hands and didnt always committ to throwing knockout punches. Emanuel Seward has said many times what a huge puncher Leonard was in the Amatuers and Leonard himself has said that he changed his style in the pros due to his hand problems. He was an aggressive Puncher for most of his amatuer career. When he wanted to Leonard could hurt the best of chins.

Oh yeah and Knocking out Lalonde a natural LH when Leonard himself was a welter at one time is testament to his power. I mean Lalonde didnt have the greatest chin but he was a much bigger man(and World Class). Bobby Czyz at cruiser or Virgil Hill couldnt stop Lalonde.

 

Tommy Hearns and Larry Holmes Jab.

 

:good Barkley hit him with everything, a flush left hook that had him do a 180 degree turn, and he still didn't really come close to stopping Hands of Stone. His chin was made of cast iron.

 

:good Yes nobody cant ever tell me he didnt posses one of the greatest chins. Especially that monster shot by the much bigger Barkley and Duran shrugged it off like nothing:yep