An unbiased look at Fury's top 10 opponents

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  1. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Old Wlad was a year removed from arguably his most impressive career win, on a 22 win streak, in his backyard, as the A-side and a massive favourite. Nearly everyone on this forum was picking the inexperienced Fury to lose at the time, mainly by KO. Yet Fury schooled him.

    How many heavyweights could fight 40+ fights unbeaten, 10 defence world champ Wilder 3 times away from home and not get KO'd or lose even once? Maybe Usyk? Historically maybe Vitali? Then make them semi-active/inactive and semi-fit for two of the fights.
     
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  2. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    "Looks pretty shite, done it?"

    By what standard? I don't see any 5'10 half-blind 205 pounders.

    There are not too many 6'5 southpaws of any quality in boxing history, Joe Louis said he'd never fight one after being lit up in sparring by a light heavyweight. Holyfield was the only pre-Klitschko HW to fight them consistently and he lost 3/4 times.
     
  3. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Clearly not, or the U.S. Ring magazine wouldn't have 270+ lbs Fury as top 10 P4P.
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    That is a perfect example to my point, thank you.
     
  5. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Maybe if Fury had beaten a few more 5'10, half-blind 205 pounders as the A-side he would be rated more highly by the resident experts on this forum.
     
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  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Is that a reference to Joe Frazier? The all time great Hall of Famer? Nice.

    Load gun. Aim at foot. Pull trigger.
     
  7. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unnecessary snide remark especially considering I have never used compubox in any argument for a fighter winning/losing a fight.
    You can talk as much as you like about the judges. My point still stands on scoring. Fury won 7, 8 rounds tops. If judges are scoring inside glove and forearms slaps then that's just incompetence.
    And this is supposed to mean something? The public/average "boxing" fan knows f all about anything let alone clean punching.
    I'm not saying he didn't win, he did but it was not dominant. You're emphasising Furys win here and its clear where your heart lies. Fury mastered the art of don't hit and don't get hit. Watch the fight again and observe what both fighters land.
     
  8. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Realistically there's no such thing as an "all time great"; you can't compare 5'10 half-blind 205 pounders from a geographically restricted and scientifically primitive era 50 years ago to top modern fighters.

    You can only compare Fury's resume to that of his contemporaries and it compares favourably by any objective measurement.
     
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  9. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Clearly superior to Joshua's pathetic record.

    Fury = winning on the road, undefeated, won every belt possible, lineal and has won in so many different ways.

    The man is a sensation.
     
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  10. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Really it just comes down to your opinion. You think Fury won as few as 7 rounds, over 90% disagree with you. Wlad's judges disagree with you. It's hard to give Wlad a single round in that fight, even in the 12th Wlad stands there doing nothing for the first minute and doesn't outland Fury by the end of it.

    "Fury mastered the art of don't hit and don't get hit"

    Yes, that's why it was a masterclass performance. Fury went to Germany and took the belts with a dominant performance (such that he was able to put his hands behind his back and mock Wlad multiple times: historically brazen showboating) while absorbing 52 punches in the whole fight against possibly the most dominant boxer in history, who was also a 6'5, 245 lbs GOAT punching KO artist.
     
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  11. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah OK whatever you say
     
  12. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua has the most wins and fights with fighters recognized as top ten heavyweights when he fought them (going off of tbrb). Fury has a win over Wlad, 2X Chisora (once when he was considered top ten) and Wilder X2 (probably should of been X3). Fury's record is a little light but not god awful. I just want to see them both fight each other or Fury vs Usyk, or Wilder vs Joshua. Marinating these fights is tedious.
     
  13. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lol right!
     
  14. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    @NEETzschean bringing @Nonito Smoak and @Quina74 to their knees here.

    It doesn't help that their biases lie in an inherently disadvantageous (i.e. wrong) position...
     
  15. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By falsely claiming Fury won every round? Lol great perspective. He won 7-8 round tops.

    Im gonna have to go through that fight round by round and exchange by exchange at some point for you lot because you guys just haven't got a clue
     
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