An unbiased look at Fury's top 10 opponents

Agree and he fought in an era of 15 round fights. Most of them these days gas after 4 it's embarrassing.

 

That is context though. I know that you and the other muppet are doing your best but it's all about context.
The reality is your man crushes have fought very little of the top guys and that gives context.

You can't just ignore top 10 competition because it's your guy and then tear down another fighter who has fought at that level.

It just doesn't work. You have both been spanked in this and the other couple of threads by multiple people.

Your not going to change the reality that Wilder and Fury have very weak resumes.
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this is very one sided
but the towel doesn't seem forth coming

 

Your mentally disturbed if you think Lewis has a thinner resume than Wilder and Fury.

Your failing to grasp the simple fact that the 90's Heavy division was far deeper with a higher level of quality all round and they mostly all fought each other which gives context.

 

Funny thing about that is some of Lewis's opponents have some notable wins on their own and some fights that were highly controversial and should have been wins. Wladimirs resume isn't the same nor is it better

Rahman rematch - Sanders (who beat Wladimir)
Mercer - beat Morrison
Past it Holyfield - had dominated Tyson and Moorer in the run up to the while had lost to once Moorer prior
Grant - Golota
Golota - beat up Bowe but mentally folded and disqualified himself, which rose his stock as you claim with the Vitali vs Lewis fight and he arguably beat Ruiz and Byrd
Ruddock - wiped out Dokes and went to war with Tyson, rising his stock. (Lewis destroyed him far worse than Fury did against Wilder)
Vitali - (dominated the next era along with Wladimir)
Tua - Ruiz, Rahman, and Maskaev
Morrison - past it but was coming off of a war with Ruddock
Bruno - Mccall and Coetzee (Coetzee is a bit past it but had never gotten laid out in 1 round like Bruno did to him)

 

It seems a better criterion than most of the other ones people are trying to apply. Given the paucity of highly ranked opponents on Fury's record it seems understandable though that Fury cheerleaders don't like it as it paints Fury in an unfavorable light.

But if we try using other criteria, I don't know if it helps Fury's case much. They can hype Wider as much as they want but unless Wilder steps up and beats better opponents the worth of those wins remain suspect. They seem to use a lot of circular reasoning. Fury is supposedly great because he beat Wilder and Wilder in turn is supposedly great because Fury had trouble with him getting dropped multiple times.

With Lennox Lewis we don't have to use circular reasoning to make his wins more impressive as his victims have their own merits.

 

Except it isn't because some of these guys have better wins than Ortiz and were in their primes. I'd rate Whyte's win over Parker above any win on Ortiz's resume and the same with Chagaev's win over Valuev. Oscar Rivas might also be better than Jennings given he knocked him out. Calvin Brock is probably close to Jennings level, maybe Peter as well.

Ortiz may have skills but as a professional he is certainly not experienced against quality opponents and Wilder was seemingly a huge step up from anyone else he fought. I imagine Ortiz in shape could easily make cruiserweight. He has been as light as 217 according to boxrec so it's bonkers to dismiss Chambers and Chagaev as blown up cruisers when the same could be said for Ortiz.

 

This fool thinks Fury's resume is better than Wlad? LMFAO. That is one of the dumbest thing I've seen posted on here. Fury's 2 biggest win is shot Wlad and no a skill power punching Wilder. This is troll level , no one is this dumb.

 

All about opinions Mr Funny Trollman. Ha ha !
Wilder has heart & a padded resume. Only you rate him as a boxer.

 

I love how anyone Joshua beats is a has-been or never-was despite being Top 10 while anyone Fury beats is a world beater despite their ranking

 

For me it very clear cut comparing Leees, AJ and Fury resumes.

Notable wins:

1. Lewis - Hollyfield (should be x 2) , Vitalli, Tyson, Mercer, Tua, Golota, Bruno, Tucker, Morrison, Ruddock, Grant, Briggs Rahman.

3. AJ - Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz and Pulev.

3. Fury - Wlad, Chisora x 2 and Wilder x2 (should be x 3).

 

No not these two but AJ derseves credit for beating Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker,' Ruiz and Pulev all of whom are better fighter than anyone Wilder has ever beaten in his career.