An unbiased look at Wilder’s top 10 opponents

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  1. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Roy Jones and Chris Byrd weighed well upwards of 172 lbs when they won HW titles and both men were a lot taller than 5'7. Tommy Burns may have been called a heavyweight 115 years ago but comparing him with the likes of Klitschko, Wilder and Fury is beyond absurd.

    Usyk beat the same guy who taco tits battered and made quit, no one sees him as the No.1 until he beats Fury. Aside from the fact that Usyk is 6'3 and not 5'7, he didn't weigh 200 lbs even before he turned pro: in the WSB he was weighing 212 lbs.
     
  2. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    It may have been even on your scorecard but the American judges had Wilder 6-2 ahead. Wilder knew he'd be favoured going into the fight, so he didn't have to work hard to win rounds.

    It also doesn't matter how many rounds you've won when Wilder sparks you out and sends you to the hospital. He wasn't playing for points.

    Wilder's resume could be a lot worse: he could have lost to a couple of those palookas like nearly all of the other great champs did.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because they put on the weight artificially.

    I cannot emphasis enough--you can believe as you like. I've no dog in the fight. You just take yourself out of a lot of good debate.
     
  4. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Active Member Full Member

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    Fury isn't #1 at HW either. Must wait for him to fight Usyk.
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz was already on the wrong side of 30 when he beat Jennings. 2 and a half years later is when he fought Wilder, and fought Wilder again at the end of 2019

    looked like utter crap against Christian hammer back in 2019 as well yet he's a great win for Wilder. Alrighty then, since age and resume somehow doesn't matter for Ortiz in the context of a win for Wilder, lets see Ortiz against a bum and one of the worst heavyweight champions like Martin as you claim. The same Martin that Joshua blew away in 2 0 difficulty

    If he looks like utter crap regardless if he pulls of the win your boxing mathmatics are going to break down
     
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  6. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah you're right: it's a completely fair and useful comparison between 5'7, 170 lbs "heavyweight" Tommy Burns from 1906 and 6'8, 270 lbs Tyson Fury from 2020.
     
  7. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Fury beat the man to become the man and won 3/4 major belts, then years later while still undefeated beat the No.2 (who held the only belt he didn't posses before). It would be like saying in 2014 "Wlad isn't No.1 until he beats Stiverne" but it's even sillier because Wlad hadn't held all the belts and not lost them in the ring.

    Fury's No.1, Usyk will remain No.2 if he beats AJ again and can only be No.1 if he beats Fury.
     
  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one are you, not me, btw.
    When Fury will stop use " snow "? He is talented but western boxing fans are tribal, nationalistic haters and even racists.

    BTW Fury even likes me and a lot.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Repeat: no dog in the fight.
     
  10. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wrong....................
    The man with the belts is no1.
    You're basing your flawed biased nonsense on lineal being defacto it isn't...
    If Fury retires now then a new line begins with a consensus of who gets the belts as it did when Lewis retired.
    Give up. You've been clowned more than a Pennywise convention....
    It's embarrasing and a little sad.
     
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  11. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is a dastardly oversight!!
     
  12. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Smh casuals these days don't even know the mighty Worm.
     
  13. Eta Carinae

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    Ortiz looked well tonight. Battered Martin from pillar to post. Another win that matured fine for Deontay
     
  14. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Active Member Full Member

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    Martin has always been crap. Even Joshua fans admit it.
     
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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You call getting put on your ass and gettin dropped by a jab from Charles Martin well ???

    Ortiz looked like sh*t dude. No way is he even top 15
     
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