Analyse and predict how these 3 bouts would go.

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  1. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Berto v Cotto (154bs for the simple fact I can't see Cotto fighting at 147lbs again).
    Cleverly v Cloud (175lbs).
    Burns v Linares (130lbs).

    If you have time do some analysis on said bouts, be interesting to hear what people think could decide the bouts.
     
  2. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cotto this is a close one though??
    cloud Easy
    Linares Shines in this fight.
     
  3. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I also think Cotto takes a close one against Berto...experience being the deciding factor. However, Berto troubling Cotto at times with his speed, maybe even hurting him once or twice...Berto has a great uppercut.

    You think Cloud takes it easy? I disagree, man. I can see Cleverly improving as he keeps on moving up...I havn't been too impressed by Cloud.

    Yeah Linares for me to. I think Burns may put on a good show, but Linares will have too much for him.
     
  4. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    cotto in a close fight
    cloud stops cleverly
    linares outclasses burns
     
  5. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Add Mayweather v Pacquiao, and Haye v Wlad to that list for obvious reasons.

    And once again, If you have time do some analysis on said bouts, be interesting to hear what people think could decide the bouts.
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    How come? I'm pretty suspicious that he'd stay at 154, really.
     
  7. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I don't know...about a year ago Cotto stated that he had fallen out of love with the sport. Not sure he even struggled to make 147lbs, I just thought he maybe couldn't be bothered making it anymore.

    I can see a number of people beating him at 154lbs, but not sure he'd move down for a bout with say Berto. If Mayweather came knocking on the door for a bout at 147lbs, I could see him shedding the weight.
     
  8. jas

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    winners: cotto, cloud, linares, mayweather, wlad.
     
  9. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Berto v Cotto (154bs for the simple fact I can't see Cotto fighting at 147lbs again).
    Cleverly v Cloud (175lbs).
    Burns v Linares (130lbs).
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    Cotto in a close fight, but much better performance by Cotto
    Cloud
    Linares outclasses the British out of Burns. I would say KO but if Martinez didn't do it Id oubt Linares can.
     
  10. themadworldofjb

    themadworldofjb New Member Full Member

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    Intersting fights you've put in here.

    Cotto beats Berto in a close fight. Cotto's punch volume will wear down Berto after a while and after a close 7-8 rounds I expect Cotto to get to Berto a lot more and close a closhish UD.

    Cloud and Cleverly are both yet to reach their peak. Cloud can be dragged into a tough fight as shown by Johnson. I think that would be Cleverlys best chance to win. Otherwise, despite Clev's boxing skills, I expect Cloud to take it, but just.

    Linares Burns: Now thats a no brainer on paper. Linares will be the heavy favourite. But Burns is an excellent boxer, has good heart, a good chin and will caus Linares problems just like Juarez did. The key for Linares is to box on the inside. I dont think Burns will be able to take that (watch his fight with Kevin O Hara as a good example).

    Mayweather Pac: Well what can we say really. Manny in the past has struggled with counter punchers (JMM and Barrera), but he has improved significantly defensivly with Roach. I dont think Floyd has the power to trouble him. I think Floyd needs to be bullied a bit more in the ring. People try and box him from distance but he struggled a little when Hatton went on the inside (before Cortez stepped in every five minutes). That may be the key for Pac, to get in on the inside and bully Floyd before catching him with some counters of his own. If he goes steaming thrown 10-15 punches most of them will miss and allow Floyd to settle in and take a wide UD.

    Wlad-Haye: A lot of Haye haters on here! Well for me Haye has one thing on Wlad, speed. Wlad wont have boxed anyone as quick as Haye and I dont think Haye would go in all guns blazing like he says he would. I sense a Valuev like performance tinged with a bit more agression, Klitschko will look to tie him up on the inside but for me Haye wins by KO everytime.
     
  11. klimting

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    cotto beats berto via UD in a f.o.t.y candidate.lots of good exchanges and toe to toe action, but cotto starts to hurt berto in the latter half of the fight with some classic cotto body shots. berto buzzes cotto several times but his warrior heart carries him through the last stretch to win on points.....
    cloud defeats cleverly quite handily
    starts off good with cleverly looking pretty flash but some hard counters from cloud put him out of his comfort zone around round 5. cleverly tries to go to war but unlike murat, cloud out-hustles him in the mid rounds and lands some vicious shots.
    the latter rounds are similar to pacquiao vs cotto where cleverly's face is looking mashed and cloud is landing flush with everything he throws. ref jumps in for a 'mercy stoppage'......tko rd 11.
    linares outpoints burns in one sided but exciting fight
    linares starts strong and doesn't let up, burns is incredibly game though and the early rounds are exhausting. latter half of the fight, burns becomes too brave for his own good and eats some serious leather to land some of his own.
    linares UD
     
  12. jpab19

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    I'd go with Cotto by close decision. Berto might not be that good but his speed would trouble Miguel IMO. He may be woefully inaccurate but Cotto's defence is poor so I can envisage Berto catching him, and buzzing him once or twice with an uppercut as Cotto advanced or a straight right. Overall though, Cotto's just plain better than Berto, strong jab and methodical pressure with plenty of body work would pick him up enough rounds to win.

    Cloud-Cleverly I wouldn't be too sure over, both certainly have a lot more improving to do. But I'm assuming we have to take it as these fights are happening at present and I'd pick Cloud if that's the case. In a couple of years I could definitely see Clev winning, but at the moment he just looks too easy to hit and gets a bit too involved in a fight when he should just stick to his good boxing ability, and Cloud would be in his element if Cleverly made those mistakes against him. I'd say Cloid takes it over 12 with Cleverly having to endure some big shots along the way.

    Linares would beat Burns with relative ease I think, though it would not be entertaining in the slightest. Burns wont beat a fighter whose a better boxer than him like Linares is, and he hasn't got the power to make it interesting if he's forced to come forward, which he probably would have to do at some point unless he's content with Linares outboxing him from the outside(or inside, if he chose to).Linares is very good, maybe not as good as he was made out to be but still but still a very handy fighter and one of the most aesthetically pleasing in the sport, Burns, I just don't see an awful lot in him to suggest he could beat the best.
     
  13. klimting

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    MAYWEATHER UD
    pacquaio comes out firing and puts mayweather on the backfoot instantly. mayweather initiates similar gameplan to when he fought de la hoya; pacquiao wins a few rounds for pressing the action but mayweather surprisingly starts to launch an offensive after timing pacquiao from, say, round 4.
    pac looks worse and worse trying to fight on the backfoot and mayweather's size advantage (of which i imagine would be similar to the marquez fight) poses great problems for pac when combined with mayweather's speed and accuracy.
    pac sees the final bell with cuts on both eyes and may cruises to a 117-111-ish win.
    wlad vs haye
    wlad fights boringly effective fight controlling from rd one with his jab. haye has his moments and even manages to get in and buzz klitschko a few times but by rd 6 hayes face is showing the signs of eating that jab incessantly.
    by the latter rounds haye is in survival mode but wlad refuses to break safe-mode and go for the kill so continues to punsih haye with his reach and win a wide UD.

    of course all the above is just based on my opinion......so please don't hate on me!!!
     
  14. themadworldofjb

    themadworldofjb New Member Full Member

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    There is no way Haye would eat Wlads jab. Hes too quick for Wlad to hit him all the time.
     
  15. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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