Analysing Wladimir Klitschko vs David Haye - Gif heavy

Respect for the effort and analysis.

What you mention above here is something that Vitali has always been excellent at and i love watching. Especially with his right uppercuts to the body, he'll throw that punch then immidiatly bring his right back up to block counter lefts coming back. You can see him do this in any fight but off the top of my head he did it alot against Arreola. IF you rewatch that fight make note of that.

I agree with your overall outlook on this fight but if that's the case a similar opinion should be held regarding the Ibragimov Unification. The Haye/Klychko fight shares alot of similarities to the Ibragimov one and Ibragimov landed 25 more punches than Haye did on Volodymyr (72 vs 97).

 

Excellent thread. Some people have mentioned Wlad's speed & coordination. This is the thing that really stands out for me about him. People are excited about Price, and to a much lesser degree, Tyson Fury, but it's very clear that neither one of these guys are as athletic as Wladimir Klitschko. People say he dominates because of his size. This is true to an extent, but it's only part of the story. Watch these really big dudes and it becomes obvious that Wlad is a rare talent. It's not just the size, it's also how deceivingly quick and agile he is for a guy that's 6'6" and 245lbs.

 

polish glass always shatters.

 

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What did people expect from haye. The size of vlad compared to haye. There was no way he cud stand toe to toe with him.

 

yeah I mean nobody in the past has ever engaged with someone bigger than them glad Jack Dempsey and Mike Tyson didn't feel that way. :rofl

 

Rico just mad all american heavys suck and would all get ktfo by Haye

 

Would Haye even engage with all of them? I doubt it. Not going to dispute that our Heavyweights suck because for the most part they do but Price hasn't shown or done anything either. We already know his Chin is abysmal.

To act like Haye is this unbeatable force is laughable the guy fights once a year and has fought a bunch of old Heavyweights.

 

Totally agree with this

 

I wouldn't say Wlad punches twice as hard

 

Rico... would he need to engage with any of them, i would back him to KTFO the majority of them without shipping anything serious. Hell Chisora couldnt land **** on him and he has helluva chin and is very hard to discourage, he's at least on par with the American heavies. I'd actually choose Chisora over Wilder and Mitchell and the majority of those heavies. Nobody is saying Haye is an unbeatable fighter, his activity and stamina are still large weaknesses. I dont think his chin is a massive problem if im honest.

 

chisora is defintely better than mitchell... still haven't seen Wilder fight anyone half decent..

 

I always thought it was a fine performance by Wladimir.

 

Excellent ESPN article

Klitschko Dominates Haye

As a cruiserweight, England's Haye, 30, was a legitimate champion. At heavyweight, he has been nothing more than an overrated, loudmouthed paper titleholder whose bark turned out to be all he had -- because there was no bite. After spending most of the past three years calling out Wladimir Klitschko and his older brother, fellow titleholder Vitali, insulting them at every turn and disrespecting them time and again, Haye finally got in the ring after twice pulling out on them. He had bailed on a signed fight with Wladimir in 2009, citing an injury nobody believed, and then later in the year agreed to fight Vitali but signed to fight Nikolai Valuev for his belt instead. Finally, however, Haye showed up in the ring to fight Wladimir in a much-anticipated bout, mostly because of Haye's outrageous boasts about how he was going to brutally destroy Klitschko and send him to the hospital.

Instead, he was a toothless tiger, who did nothing to remotely back up his talk. Klitschko, with three inches and 30 pounds on him -- not to mention being better than Haye in every aspect of boxing, with the exception perhaps being speed -- took him apart. He jabbed, threw left hooks and right hands and moved forward throughout the fight. But Haye, who accused Klitschko of being boring, ran away the entire fight and turned in one of the most awful big-fight performances in history. Before the bout, HBO's Larry Merchant nailed it when said of Haye, "He's blown the trumpet. Now, will he charge?" The answer was a resounding no. Haye was the boring one because he refused to engage. He seemed utterly petrified of Klitschko's tremendous power. He was defensive and rarely let his hands go. Klitschko landed more than twice as many punches as Haye.

What Haye seemed to do more than punch was look for help from referee Geno Rodriguez and flop to the mat because of phantom pushes. After a few flops, Rodriguez bought the con job and docked a point from Klitschko for pushing Haye down in the seventh round. In the 11th round, with Haye already out of it on the scorecards, he flopped again. This time, Rodriguez was hip to Haye's act and ruled it a knockdown. It was one of the more inventive makeup calls from a referee you'll ever see.

Klitschko, 35, racked up round after round as he rolled to the lopsided decision, unifying three of the major belts and leaving no doubt that he is clearly the No. 1 heavyweight in the world. The only fighter even close is Vitali, and the brothers and best friends have, for obvious reasons, vowed never to fight each other. Complain about Klitschko's style all you want, but it's damn effective. There is nobody to even give him a challenge right now as he moved to 11-0 with 9 knockouts during this, his second title reign. He is 17-2 with 14 knockouts overall in world title bouts and hasn't been in a remotely competitive fight since his first fight with Samuel Peter in 2005.

Haye's excuse for his putrid performance was a sore pinky toe on his right foot that he supposedly suffered three weeks before the fight. The jokes to be made here are endless. But let's take Haye at his word and believe he really was injured. Still, to hear him blame his loss on a three-week-old pinky toe injury was laughable. Think about Arturo Gatti fighting through horrible cuts and busted hands. Think about Tomasz Adamek fighting a blood-soaked war with Paul Briggs despite having broken his nose a couple of weeks before the fight. The list of true warriors is endless. Haye simply got his ass whooped by a better, bigger, smarter, more talented fighter and had to have an alibi for his woeful performance. So he blamed it on the pinky toe, which he eagerly showed off after the fight. (Frankly, it only looked a little swollen.) The pinky toe excuse is destined to go down among the all-time worst excuses in sports. Haye put himself in this position. He was in a (toe?) jam here because, had he pulled out because of the injury, he would have been a laughingstock for ducking the Klitschkos for a third time. So he went through with the fight, got routed and then made up excuses that made him a laughingstock anyway. All the while, the classy Klitschko, a native of Ukraine who has fought mostly in Germany, added yet another notch on his surefire first-ballot Hall of Fame resume.