Analysis of Frank Warren's stable

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  1. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Decided to have a look at Warrens stable and where he can go from here after losing Khan and Mitchells failed attempts to win a World title.

    I will split fighters by locations listing potential venues (excluding football grounds) and level.

    Locations will be - Greater London, North West, Midlands, Scotland, Wales and Norfolk

    These are the where the core grouops of his fighters are based.

    The levels will be

    A - World Champion
    B - Potential World Champion in the next year
    C - Domestic Champion
    D - Potential star (domestic champion next year, World champion in future)
    E - Prospect

    Greater London

    Venues
    Football Stadiums (30,000+)
    02 Arena (20,000)
    Wembley Arena (12,000)
    Excell (8,000)
    Alexander Palice (4,000)
    York Hall (1,000)

    Fighters
    A - None
    B - None
    C - Kevin Mitchell, Derek Chisora,
    D - James DeGale, BJ Saunders, Jamie Cox
    E - Vinny Mitchell, Freddy Turner, George Carman

    North West

    Venues
    Football Stadiums (30,000+)
    MEN (18,000)
    Liverpool Echo (8,000)
    Bolton Arena (5,000)
    Liverpool Olympia (4,000)
    Various (1,000-3,000)

    Fighters
    A - None
    B - None
    C - Paul Smith, Tony Bellew, Michael Jennings,
    D - Stephen Smith
    E - Ronnie Heffron, Joe Shelrick, Liam Smith


    Midlands

    Venues
    Football Stadiums (30,000+)
    Sheffield Hallam (15,000)
    Birmingham NIA (10,000)
    Nottingham Trent (8,000)
    Various (1,000-3000)

    Fighters
    A - None
    B - Kell Brook
    C - None
    D - Frankie Gavin
    E - Don Broadhurst, Thomas Costello

    Scotland

    Venues
    Football Stadiums (30,000+)
    Glasgow Brahead (5,000)
    Glasgow Kelvin Hall (3,000)
    Edinburgh Meadowbank (2,500)

    Fighters
    A - None
    B - Ricky Burns
    C - John Simpson
    D - Paul Appleby
    E - None

    Wales

    Venues
    Football Stadiums (30,000+)
    Cardiff Arena (7,500)
    Various (1,000-3,000)

    Fighters
    A - None
    B - Nathan Cleverly
    C - Enzo Macceranelli
    D -
    E - Tobias Webb, Craig Evans

    Norfolk

    Venues
    Football Stadiums (30,000+)
    Norwhich Showground (2,000)
    Various (1,000)

    Fighters
    A - None
    B - None
    C - Sam Sexton
    D - Liam Walsh
    E - Ryan Walsh, Michael Walsh
     
  2. williams7383

    williams7383 TKO 6 Klit Lickers Full Member

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    Rob,

    what do you reckon Bellew v Clev could sell in 12 months time ?

    usual suspects on the bill too

    lets say Birmingham as a neutral venue ?
     
  3. kieron

    kieron Active Member Full Member

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    Don't see Paul Smith as a world champ in the next year or ever to be honest
     
  4. Bad Dog

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    Correct.
     
  5. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So basically he is thin on the ground for stars anytime soon and the area that shows the greatest potential is the Northwest
     
  6. avidlemon

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    :nono

    wait and see
     
  7. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice list and good thought put into this thread.:good
     
  8. robpalmer135

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    I think neutral venue is pointless unless we have a Unification. Even then MEN would make sense.

    I dont think we see the fight for at least 2 years tbh.
     
  9. cheekyvid

    cheekyvid Detroit, I shall return. Full Member

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    i dont see it on performace level so far however on matchmaking...i can see it. ive never seen stieglitz fight but ive heard he aint the best
     
  10. kieron

    kieron Active Member Full Member

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    Fair point. I suppose we are dealing with Mr. Warren here!
     
  11. Bad Dog

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    Lol. I can't see him beating Kessler, Ward or Bute. Don't know about the other German champ.
     
  12. avidlemon

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    we all know the wbo is the best route right now, but let's be honest, kessler and ward are tied up in the super six, and smith isn't ranked by the ibf, but is ranked 5 by the wbo, so it is the most likely route
     
  13. Dirt99

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    Smith is a Warren fighter so will fight the weak champion ie Stiglitz, which i winnable. However Smith has NO chance against any of the super6 and Bute would probably get stopped by most of them as well from cuts. Anyone else noticed how he cuts easy these days?
     
  14. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    smith is never a world champion.

    any version of the title.

    degale would beat him tomorrow if given the chance. :bbb
     
  15. avidlemon

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    you ****s are baiting me!!

    Smith cuts because he got ****ing butted in the dodson fight.

    degale showed that when he fights someone he can get cuaght failry easily and someone with a bit of power will cause him problems. Let's not forget horton was catching him. Power will back degale up. He has not had to fight off the back foot or the ropes at all, and no one he has fought has been able to give him something extra to think about.
    Groves schools him now, and let's not get started on smith.