Analysis of Klitschko defeats

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by David UK, Jan 14, 2009.


  1. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    C'mon dude, you know me better than that. I find it amazing how the haters here define the Klitschkos by their losses only, never considering their dominate wins or their amazing KO percentages.
     
  2. ralphc

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    The closest thing Wladimir Klitschko ever came to overcoming adversity is giving that African bum a boxing lesson. The fact still remains that Sam Peter only had five reasonably good rounds in him, then he ran out of gas, as he always does. After the two so called knockdowns, he had Klitschko wounded, mentally more than physically. If that had been Joe Frazier or Rocky Marciano they would have come out swinging in the 6th. Go back and watch the tape. You will see Peter do little else other than block punches with his head and throw the odd haymaker.

    By the way, George Foreman wouldn't have gotten rabbit punched by Sam Peter because he wouldn't have turned his back. When an unskilled slugger came at him, he would stand his ground like a real champion and take them out early. No playing around, no turning his back like a coward.
     
  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Is that the best response that you could muster up.... really? That nonsense clearly doesn't deserve a proper response, so I won't give one. Don't worry, I am sure that a couple posters like Fighting Weight or Suge will come along, quote you, and act like you just rocked my world.
     
  4. Prime Foreman was a better all aroung fighter than Wlad Klits -no doubt about that:smoke, a prime Foreman would beat Wlad but it wouldn't be a walk in the park, Foreman was an Animal in his prime, very few could have stood up to him...
     
  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    When the hell did this become a George Foreman thread?
     
  6. David UK

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    When did this become a George Foreman thread?

    Answer-Simply replace the words 'george Foreman' with 'David Haye':hey
     
  7. David UK

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    To answer Widdow's question,Wlad agreed to fight Haye this summer. Then it was switched to Vitali, now back to Wlad again. The fight,against either Klits, has been verbally agreed, so if it doesn't happen and both brothers fight someone else instead, it would appear they are ducking Haye. Whether anyone agrees or disagrees that Haye DESERVES a shot at the Klits has nothing to do with it. Besides, there's more money for EVERYONE in a Haye fight than a Gomez fight or an Arreola fight, so if Wlad fights Arreola instead,especially after calling out Haye post Rahman it doesn't look good
     
  8. Fighting Weight

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    Oh boy those are 2 little gems :rofl:rofl

    No-one ducks issues more than you do Window, every single time someone owns you you just ignore the points, change the subject or leave the thread, it's your mo.

    As for putting fighters on a level playing field.....hysterical coming from the man who thought Oscar beat Sturm and that WALDO didn't get hurt by punches against Brewster :nut

    Like the fact I'm biased towards UK fighters too - try telling that to the Calslappy fans.

    It's highly amusing that you attack people for bringing Foreman into this when you bring up the WALDO win over Rahman as though it has any bearing whatsoever on VITLAY ducking Rahman all those times - what WALDO did to Rahman is completely irrelevent to what happened with VITLAY in every part of the universe except planet Window :patsch

    Also, fancy trying to big up the Rahman win yet again, how sad.
     
  9. Fighting Weight

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    Precisely. Next time type it a bit slower, Window struggles with facts and logic.
     
  10. Fighting Weight

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  11. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Wlad never previously agreed to fight Haye in the summer, that's just a lie. Vitali and Haye had negotiations... but obviously no true agreement had been met... or they would be fighting. Besides that, Vitali doesn't have a choice as the WBC simply won't allow him to fight Haye, and will strip him if he doesn't fight Gomez. Fighters have negotiations all of the time... that isn't called an agreement. Also, if they don't work out... it doesn't mean that someone is being ducked. A lot of things come into play when considering whether a fight can take place or not. Including the venue, the money, the sanctioning organizations actually sanctioning the fight... mandatories that are due... the time that it will take to actually promote the event, and whether or not they will have enough time to put on the sort of event that they would like to have between now, and when Wlad has to fight Haye in Sept. It isn't as simple as you guys try and make it sound. It isn't like they just look at each other, want to fight... and it magically happens. They have to actually plan an event, and make sure that everything works out in order for it to happen. A very important aspect would be whether or not the financial demands of everyone involved can be met.
     
  12. elTerrible

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    When I seen davidUK as the thread starter, I opened it, as I expected something better.
     
  13. elTerrible

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    Vitali has no choice in his fight, he was forced to fight his mandatory contender or loose his belt, they assumed he could take a voluntary defense and thats why the Vitali fight was being talked about and Haye was asking for Vitali first because he said it would be more challenging, but then Vitali's camp gets notice from the belt organization that they will not accept any voluntary defenses.
     
  14. Wlad is supposed to fight Arreola next isn't he:huh all he has to do there is make it out of the first 3 or 4 rounds then it's party time, Arreola will probaly run out of gas after that..
    Klits shouldn't have to worry about losing his title for awhile,:deal the division is weak...
     
  15. David UK

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    I do understand how boxing politics work, although many on here don't have a clue so it's not a problem you outlining it above.

    However, you can't deny that Haye v either Klit grosses FAR more money than Klits v Gomez or Klits v Arreola. There comes a time when the ABC belts are an albatross if they get in the way of fighters making big money. As I'm sure you know it's the fighter that makes the belt, not the other way around. The Klits are big enough names not to need any belts now, unlike, for example, lower profile fighters like Tim Bradley or Carl Froch who still need their belts to make decent cash.