Analyzing Julio Cesar Chavez

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    This has been rehashed ad nauseum.

    Scored on the 10 point must system, it was a close fight. Pea won his rounds more emphatically but not 10-8 emphatically. So, Pea's great rounds counted as much as Chavez's very close rounds. I had Pea winning but not by much.

    Regardless, for those that feel a prime JCC was at age 31, 87 fights in at 142.... well, I have an arena in San Antonio to sell you.
     
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  2. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it wasn't, Whitaker won 8-4/9-3 clearly.
     
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  3. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Lol what? Whitaker won 8 rounds minimum. What rounds exactly did you give to Chavez?
     
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  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I had it 7-5... 115-113. We have a round different. You can die on that hill if you choose to. I've discussed that fight enough in my days.. and I was actually at the damn thing.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I had it 117-111. Nothing close about that.
     
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  6. bowlingkid09

    bowlingkid09 Member Full Member

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    Loma schools and brutally KOs Qawi in 3.

    On a serious note, Loma is unlikely to beat Duran or Chavez at their best. I am going to say it... Duran and Chavez are actually better technically than Loma as well.
     
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  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    That's true and made alot of people resent him. He sort of a poor sport near the end perhaps all he accomplished before that got sullied somewhat.
     
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  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    That only proved that Whitaker was a better Welterweight than Chavez. The Duvas played that one well.
    At 135 its different in my opinion. Not saying Pea couldnt win but it would be interesting.
     
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  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Yea it wasn't a domination but Whitaker did win it. Chavez probably won some rounds on aggression. Pea didn't catch his groove until he stopped running and started peppering Julio in the mid rounds.
     
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  10. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Duva made sure to keep Pea away from JCC until JCC was past his best and at 5 lbs heavier than his best weight.
     
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  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whitaker got hosed by the WBC against Ramirez and Chavez. Whitaker wasnt exactly a natural 147 either. If Whitaker had gotten the decision he deserved against Ramirez there is a good chance he and Chavez would have fought in 1988.Chavez fought Ramirez in a WBA/WBC unification. Whitaker should have been the WBC champion not Ramirez. Whitaker was relegated to going after the IBF title. By that time JCC was at 140 lbs. I think at 140 Whitaker outboxes Chavez. At 135 Chavez wins because he was absolute peak and Whitaker was still a bit green when Chavez was there.
     
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  12. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One of my all time favorites...I didn’t become a boxing fan until after his prime ....but thanks to YouTube lol
     
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  13. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    One thing I always noticed about Chavez was him throwing the straight right hand almost a foot to the left of the opponents head. He would do this in the first 2-3 rounds and sometimes sporadically throughout the fight. Does anyone know why he did this?
     
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  14. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    They didnt want the fight in 89, 90, 91, 92 either.
     
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  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    "tripwire counter"....that's descriptive...good stuff there GC:deal:
     
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