Analyzing Rocky II The Rematch

I liked RockyVI; it is probably second only to the original. Just one point about the scoring....


IT WAS BILLED AS AN EXHIBITION BOUT!!!!!!

You do not have judges or a decision!

 

did he have an eastsideboxing PM account:think

 

I'm waking up a bit now

If the fight was scored 5 rounds apiece (w/ 10-9's)
that would be 95. If one fighter got a KD that would
be a 10-8 so that would be a 95-94 on ONE side but...
both fighters were knocked down Dixon once, Balboa???
How could Rocky earn a 95-94 nod on one scorecard?

I know, its only a darn movie but...:bbb

 

I second that, although it was quite depressing at times...

 

I like all the Rockys, sure 5 didnt lived up to the past Rockys, but in its own right, it was a good movie. Poor "Boxing" movie though lol.

I think Creed got cheated in Rocky II. Rocky should have been counted out. By the time the ref reach 5, I already counted ten, like 20 times lol.

I think the ref was on the take. Creed was screw. People may not know this, but in the Rocky movies, the refs are always helping Rocky out.

Like take the Clubber Lane rematch, when Rocky goes down, the Ref goes 1,2 ,3 ete. But the movement Clubber falls in round 3, its 8 9 ten your out. He didnt even start at 5 lol. Other ref on the take.

Than his battle with Drago, the ref should have stop that fight in the first round.

 

Creed went 15 gruleing rounds with a club fighter who he should have beat easly. He had something to prove.

 

It was a built-in part of Apollo Creed's ( ficticious ) Character as being driven by his undying desire to be recognized as nothing less than incredible. He was Sylvester Stallone's recreation of Muhammad Ali. In a real life setting as well is in one of make-believe, men like Creed dread nothing more than to be forgotten. To them, its almost worse than painful death, because it represents the coming of such a day. Creed's yerning to destroy Balboa in a rematch, was to satisfy the doubts that the fans had about his greatness, as well as in all honesty, his own. Had nothing to do with money or even an extra notch on his belt. He wanted respect....Period....... His unwillingness to accept the passing of time, would later emerge when he challenged Ivan Drago to an exhibition years later.....This time it cost him more than just a title....

 

Rocky was a classic ...

II was a very good sequel although the double knockdown started the absudity to come in following films ...

III was a change of pace and fun although Rocky's complete change of style fighting style again stretched reality ... like having Rocky Marciano turn into Gene Tunney ...

IV was simply bad.

V was even worse .... very bad

VI was actually terrific until the actual fight which was a joke ... maybe have a three round exhibition ... a ten rounder with a sixty year old man getting his ass kicked, terrible ...

 

actually marciano already had very good defense.......a very high gaurd, great parrying skills, very good movement in the crouch, solid head movement in 51.


balboa never had any of these

 

How? best soundtrack and best training scenes of all time......BAR NONE

 

The real thing to wonder is why they were scoring an exhibition, and the need to call out the winner as still being undefeated after an exhibition.

Back to Creed

If anyone ever had the eye of the tiger, it was Apollo Creed. Remember all that nonsense from Rocky III. Who looked hungrier? Who called out whom? Who was training like a mad man from the beginning? Rocky had the eye of the Basset Hound.

 

As I've shown, double knockdowns do sometimes happen, though admittedly they are rare. I tend to think the problem with Rocky II was the fight up until the knockdown: after the realism of the first fight, it was disappointing to see such a cartoonish fight. Creed-Balboa I was very realistic for a boxing film, probably because it was mostly highlights, which is the only way you can convey the drama and brutality of a boxing match in such a short period of time.

Rocky II otherwise is probably my favourite Rocky film, in that the stories it deals with (overconfidence, wounded pride and especially bankrupcy) are extremely common boxing tales. The story of most contenders is more similar to the first part of Rocky II than any other boxing film.

I also like Rocky III, not just for the silly fun but also the way it basically tells one of the greatest undertold boxing stories (Patterson-Ingo I and II) albeit in a very embellished adapted manner. However, it and Rocky IV lack the same kind of realistic storytelling found in the other films. Rocky IV, of course, is awesome in an unintended self-parody of sports films and of superpower culture in general.

Off topic: the best sports film ever is North Dallas Forty. I have absolutely no interest in American football and I loved that film. Great acting and a story that anyone who has ever done team sports can identify with, especially if you were a bit of an unconvential but gifted outsider like me.

 

I wonder who won the inofficial Creed - Balboa III match. :huh

 

I wonder why they totally ignored the painter in the room. Most impolite.

 

'Yo adrian.....I did it'......