And THAT is why Pacquiao wouldn't fight Cotto at 154.

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Cotto was whipping Foreman before Foreman tripped.
     
  2. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Sounds good til one thinks about 144 being the lightest he could go for JMM.
     
  3. CoDer

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    So pacy boy's body can now reach 151lbs like Floyd without building fat eh. :grin:

    The heaviest pacy can go is 148lbs, he has no business at 154lbs.
     
  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    So what was he doing weighing 150 against Oscar and Margarito on fight night?
     
  5. FORMIDABLE

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    Sure, it had nothing to do with Pacquiao stating he didn't want to fight at JMW again after the Margo fight and being maxxed out at 144/145. Hilarious, all these ****ing idiots now claiming Pac is ducking Cotto were trashing him for cherry picking another easy fight when there was talk of a rematch (even at 154) and when it looked like they were going to fight again before Mayweather came into the picture. Unbelievable.

    But hey, since *****s and his haters are the ones now creating demand for a fight Arum wants, Pac should definately fight Cotto next in another big PPV since Floyd won't fight Pac. So you guys will be happy if Pac takes the Cotto rematch next? I'm sure you all will, and I'm sure you will all give Pacquiao credit if he knocks Cotto out again.

    150 would be good enough for both (Cotto demanded Margarito fight at that weight, and 154 is probably a few lbs over his optimal weight as a blown up JWW), at 154 Pac would be giving away almost 8-9lbs that's too much of an advantage for Cotto
     
  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    :lol: So it's only ok when Pac has the advantages right? Floyd gave up probably 10 lbs against Cotto on Saturday.

    Pac gave up 16 against Margarito. So what is the harm in 8?
     
  7. FORMIDABLE

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    weighed-in 142 vs DLH, 144 vs Margs, rehydrated to 146 vs DLH, 148 vs Margs from memory
     
  8. FORMIDABLE

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    No, Pac gave up 6lbs at the weigh-in vs Margs. Floyd gave up 3lbs to Cotto.

    Pac has to train down to 144/45 to be sharp and at his best. Even at 146 he said he felt sluggish and slower vs Clottey. You do know he has moved up from having started at 106 and has a 5-6 small fighters' frame and reach and didn't start boxing at WW? As for Floyd, 150/151 seems to be the weight he's maxxed out at and why he said he'd only fight Martinez at a catchweight (telling after all the garbage he's talked about Pac and his catchweights)

    Expecting Pac to fight a guy at 154 weighing-in 9lbs less just shows how illogical his haters are. Floyd ain't ever given away more than 4lbs at the weigh-in to anyone. What you're saying, you wouldn't hold against any other boxer.
     
  9. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I'm talking about fight night. If Pac can give up 17 vs Marg, why not 8 vs Cotto? Why is that too much?
     
  10. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    They said they'd go up to 148..Pacquiao won't dare touch a Cotto that can eat all week long. Cotto could not eat for 2 1/2 days prior to the weigh in with Manny. He said his last meal was that Tuesday night.
     
  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I believe it. Cotto was a raging bull Saturday night.
     
  12. lacson

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    If he had fought Paquiao the way he fought Mayweather, he would have been knocked out quicker.

    The only way he survived Pacquiao until the 12th was because he went on his bicycle. The mistakes he made was coming forward against Pacquiao. He was better when he was using his jab and boxing. But still didn't take long for Pacquiao to figure him out.

    By the way Cotto was faster and more mobile against Pacquiao. He looked heavy against Mayweather. Cotto is Cotto, the game plan was different. It doesn't change how he throws punches, they were still the same.
     
  13. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    It's a shame Manny won't fight Floyd and accept more than 5x the guarantee he's ever made. Pacquiao's highest guarantee is 7.5 million...22.5 after PPV profits...Floyd offered him 40 million. Floyd also set the highest purse guarantee and will break Oscar's record of 53 million with the Cotto fight. Floyd breaks record's without Manny...Manny don't break records without Floyd.
     
  14. turbotime

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    The gameplan was different? The difference being he actually has a corner now that can actually gameplan.
     
  15. CoDer

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    150?!? :rofl