And THAT is why Pacquiao wouldn't fight Cotto at 154.

The fact remains that Cotto had never fought above 147 when Pacquiao faced him and that it was only Pac's second fight at the weight (the first being against De La Hoya before he went back down in weight to face Hatton). There is no basis for blaming Pacquiao for not fighting Cotto at a higher weight.

 

You'd be amazed how many fights were fought at catchweights. Look up the history of the sport and you'll see a lot of them. Anytime you want to match up guys that are not really in the same weight class you get catchweights. Leonard fought at catchweights.

 

Yeah, let's just forget the fact that "Pac" fought Margocheato at 150 before refusing to go above 147 for a Cotto rematch. :yep

You can "blame" him or not. The fact remains Floyd once again stepped up to the plate and took on a challenge that "Pac" was clearly unwilling to. :deal

 

So I guess you bought Mayweather's spin that he is such a nice guy that he'll let Cotto fight at his most comfortable weight.

I look at it as a smart, cunning Mayweather that he wants Cotto to come in heavy and slow.

 

Bought his spin? Okay...

He fought him at 154 where Cotto's had three successful outings and held a title. Manny didn't want to fight him there, or even at a catchweight above 147. I guess he wanted Cotto drained and fast. :nut

 

He took punishment from Margarito, he said himself that was the last time he was fighting at that weight and he was staying at welter where he's more comfortable. When guys are gaining 17 lbs on you, it's probably not a fair fight. That doesn't mean he can't beat them, it's just that he will get punished. Why risk the possibility of brain damage?

 

That's boxing for you. Fighters are always trying to negotiate an advantage. That's what negotiations are for. If you're stupid enough to negotiate for something you shouldn't have, tough. Live with it, it has been part of the sport and will continue to be part of the sport.

At the end of the day, if the two guys agree to whatever conditions and sign to fight, that's it and don't whine about it. And most fighters don't whine about it, just the whiny irritating types.

 

I'm not arguing that he should have. I'm arguing that he didn't and Floyd did, which is absolutely ****ing irrefutable. Kinda blows the idea that "Pac" always takes on the biggest challenges while Floyd avoids them out of the water, doesn't it? Throw in the fact that "pac" wanted nothing to do with Mosley when he looked like he still had a pulse and that idea seems even more ridiculous. :deal

 

Pacquiao fought Margarito at 150 AFTER he fought Cotto at 147 - not the other way around. Cotto had never fought above 147 when he faced Pacquiao - there was no reason why the fight should have been made at a higher weight.

 

I think it was more a business decision by Top Rank, Mosley was with GBP and they weren't doing business. Even Mayweather right now is fighting all GBP fighters. It wasn't like Pacquiao was fighting nobodies, Clottey was a big welter, too bad he didn't take any risks. It's almost like Mosley not taking risks. Hopefully Bradley takes some risk and make it a fight. Fighters are human and they do have fear.

 

I'm talking about the rematch that they were trying to negotiate just before Cotto went on to sign a fight with Mayweather. "Pac" told him he had to come all the way back down to 147 or no fight, so Cotto walked.

 

If there was serious intention on Cotto's part, the weight thing could have been negotiated to 150. There was preliminary talks of weight but I don't think it got past the financial part. Mayweather's financial offer was much bigger than Top Rank and I can only speculate that I don't believe Cotto really wanted to make that fight anyways. At the end of the day Cotto made the choice. Mayweather instead of revenge.

 

Glad he did - very little point to that fight. I believe they could probably have agreed to fight at 150 - which is fair in my oppinion. Don't forget that Pacquiao is naturally much smaller than both Mayweather and Cotto - he is small even for 147, It isn't quite fair to expect him to fight as high in weight as Mayweather.

 

Really? Because according to everyone involved it wasn't something that could have been negotiated. Cotto even took it as far as going public with his frustration over Manny refusing to budge from 147.

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That's nice. The point I made about Floyd taking on challenges that "Pac" was clearly unwilling to still stands. All the excuses in the world won't change the fact that Floyd took on versions of Mosley and Cotto that "Pac" would not.