Anderson Silva to retire next year?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by concrete sledge, Sep 22, 2008.


  1. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

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    Maybe his contract is coming up and he is thinking of leaving the org? Or his way of telling UFC, I need more $$$$$$$$$ when it comes time to resign.
     
  2. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    Roy WOULD win the boxing match.

    And yes Silva would win the MMA match.

    Wouldnt say kill as it would probably get stopped early.

    Im really baffled how u would write that RJJ MIGHT win the boxing match.lol.
     
  3. That's what I meant. And why would he not completely focus on boxing if it were going to be a boxing match? I think he'd have a height and reach advantage as well.
     
  4. SkillsSoSmooth

    SkillsSoSmooth Active Member Full Member

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    It would be devastating for the sport if this man calls it a day, and for the life of me i can't see why he would while he's at the peak of his powers, he's having a ball right now and is making it all look very easy, i hope Dana moves heaven and earth to tie him down to a new contract for the UFC's sake, although saying all that it's easy for us to talk about it but it's Anderson who has to get in the ring and go through hell :D .. whatever happens the great man took things to a whole new level and will go down as one of the greatest MMA stars ever.
     
  5. Tyga

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    That's what I meant. If Anderson were to retire from MMA.
     
  6. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His manager says he will fight until he is 35
     
  7. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well I actually wouldnt mind seeing it just because it would hopefully educate the MMA fanbase.

    But yeah, Dana White isnt stupid, hes been around boxing for a large part of his life. He knows the UFC would lose some credibility by having their golden boy get crushed against a 40 year old who fights at a much lighter weight.

    Its the same reason he doesnt want to cross-promote. He doesnt want to risk Couture against Fedor.
     
  8. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My god man, he said if Silva focused on boxing he might be able to beat a top 75 LHW.

    NOT ROY FRIGGING JONES JR. Are you actually serious or is this some kind of sick joke?

    I dont think you realize how badly Silva would get embarrassed. Silva practically is a striker. Thats what he devotes most of his time too. And since 2006 hes actually focused quite a bit on boxing. So its not like focusing primarily on boxing for THREE months will drastically improve his chances of succeeding in boxing. Hes still absolutely screwed against any top 50 LHW.

    Listen, there is a HUGE difference between the boxing ability of a Rich Franklin, Chris Leben, Travis Lutter, James Irvin, Dan Henderson as opposed to a top LHW boxer like a Chad Dawson, Chris Henry. LOL.

    Saying Silva can beat RJJ is like saying RJJ can submit BJ Penn. Well if RJJ focused for 3 months on BJJ im sure he can submit Penn. LOL, They are both equally ridiculous.
     
  9. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I beat you 1000$ you haven't seen anyone fight who's ranked 75 or lower... those guys arn't anything special. Silva would destroy them.
     
  10. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Umm you're way off son. RJJ hasn't trained a day in BJJ while Silva trains in boxing many hours a week.
     
  11. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    That's what "boxing fans" forget, MMA guys train wrestling,BJJ,Muay Tai,Sambo,Judo,kickboxing,submission fighting,boxing, And Boxers train......well in boxing only.
     
  12. cdnboxing

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    You absolutely dont know boxing if you think those guys ranked in the 60-70s arent anything special. Some of them have great amatuer pedigrees and well over 20 pro fights. To think that Silva would destroy them when hes already got a loss on his boxing resume to a mediocre fighter is pretty ridiculous.

    Silva can compete, COMPETE with guys ranked in the 50's, 60's, 70's but he by no means would DESTROY them. He would however be absolutely humiliated and overwhelmed by any top 25 LHW. This isnt even up for discussion.

    Silva may TRAIN boxing but he doesnt do so with world-class boxing trainers, he doesnt get world-class sparring. The extent of his sparring sessions would be like Big Nog, Lil Nog. HAHA. Lil Nog by the way got UD'd by a Cuban amatuer boxer at the Pan Am games in the semi's.

    Not to mention Silva is 1-1 in his professional boxing career. He has never faced legitimate fighters in boxing. And if he did he would be overwhelmed.

    Honestly, I love MMA, I watch MMA but BOXING is completely different. There are so many aspects to boxign that MMA fighters simply cannot do. Im talking in-fighting, throwing punches from weird angles, double-triple jabs, up jabs, out-fighting, fighting against the ropes, head & body movement, slipping, parrying, fluent combinations etc.
     
  13. cdnboxing

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    The point is they are both equally ridiculous. Both have absolutely no chance. I cant believe people actually think because someone trains boxing and KO's a bunch of wrestlers and BJJ guys that they can hang with a legend like RJJ.

    Do you know how crazy you sound? A guy with a 1-1 record, without top notch boxing trainers, sparring partners could beat RJJ or even HANG with RJJ. HAHAHA.

    Does that mean Cintron can hang with Urijah Faber? Well Cintron has a wrestling background, and his wrestling pedigree was far more impressive than Fabers, Sherks, Rampages etc.

    Lets put it this way. Kermit Cintron is a very gifted athlete. He was regarded as one of the best wrestlers in the country coming out of high school. He quit wrestling to pursue boxing. He trained boxing EVERYDAY for 10 years and yet when he got in the ring with Margarito, Margarito overwhelmed him. He actually embarassed him. He was doing circles around him, landing body shots, uppercuts, rights, lefts, jabs. He was in Cintrons face all night and just gave him a gruesome boxing lesson.

    If Cintron cant beat Margarito whos a GOOD fighter after 10 years of religious boxing training what makes you think Silva can even COMPETE with RJJ with absolutely minimal experience. Just watch Silvas 2nd boxing fight. Once you see it you will immediately notice a huge difference between a top notch boxer and Silva. Silvas footwork was awkward, jabs were awkward, left his chin out. Silva would get smoked.
     
  14. cdnboxing

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    Ahhh, nice ignorant post on a boxing forum.

    MMA fighters absolutely do NOT train in all those disciplines. Training in all those disciplines would almost be counterproductive.

    You know that Herring didnt even train on the ground for his fight against Kongo. You know that Fedor has NEVER done BJJ. He comes from a sambo background and cross-trains in boxing/kickboxing. If you think MMA fighters are these WELL-ROUNDED machines than you are COMPLETELY wrong. Sylvia, Lesnar, Sherk, Griffin, Florian, Edgar, Guida, Liddell, Crocop, Hunt, Aoki, Ortiz, Serra, Hughes, Koscheck, Herring, Gonzaga, Werdum etc are all ONE-DIMENSIONAL.

    The point is "BOXING FANS" arent stupid enough to proclaim that a fighter who has TWO professional boxing fights can defeat a legend albeit old one in RJJ.

    You're talking about a fighter in Silva who amassed a 40-1 Muay Thai record in ONLY BRAZIL. Brazil is far from a Muay Thai hotbed and he managed to lose to a relatively mediocre striker. Silva would get absolutely MANHANDLED against any top 10-15 Muay Thai striker in his respective weight class. Corbett, Spong would all brutally massacre him and thats Silvas apparent strength.

    So if Silva cant even beat someone at his own game what makes you think he can beat RJJ in boxing with a 1-1 boxing record.

    Training in boxing and actually COMPETING in boxing are two entirely different things. Some MMA fighters train in boxing but they DONT actually COMPETE in it. If world-class K-1 strikers like Ray Sefo can get KILLED against a journeyman heavyweight boxer in a boxing fight, I guarantee you Silva would have the same result if not worse. Crocop got cut from the Croation National boxing team, Mark Hunt is a failed boxer, Mighty Mo got his jaw broken against a journeyman boxer. I mean these are great K-1 strikers were talking about and ALL of them failed miserably in boxing. Why would Silva with a much lesser striking pedigree fare any differently?

    Jay Hieron said Silva would get whooped. "It wouldnt be a good night for Silva, Hieron said."

    Randy Couture said "RJJ is probably a way better boxer but Silva should be allowed to test out his skills in boxing."

    Koscheck is a great wrestler but hes not going to win any gold medals. And he has a far more impressive wrestling pedigree than Silva has in boxing.

    C'mon guys. I dont care which sport you prefer, I dont care if you dont like boxing but a little bit of common sense would be appreciated.
     
  15. jimmie

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    You are a complete and total jackass saying what you just said. Griffin isnt well rounded the dude has exactly what real weakness ? Florian has good takedowns,real strong Muay Thai and hes been a BJJ Blackbelt before he entered the 1st TUF season. Liddell isnt exactly 1 dimensional his striking is yes but when he wants to he can wrestle damn good. Serra has a execellent ground game and extremly heavy hands he could KO anyone at 170. Hughes cant strike but he isnt just a slam and GNP guy he has great submission skills ask the 20 something guys he submitted. Gonzaga WTF he KOed Cro Cop with a head kick his best move when Cro Cop was still ranked number 2 in the world and considered the most lethal striker out there then look at Gonzagas ground game he has brutal GNP and awesome Jiu-Jitsu you dont become a Mundial Champion if you dont. Tito Ortiz like Hughes cant really strike well Tito has a great clinch he uses them elbows and knees real well but he isnt the shoot and lay there guy people think he is. Titos got great GNP skills and he doesnt even need to pass guard hell his guard off the back is dangerous watch him nearly submitt Machida I guarantee sweat was a favorite in him getting out or watch Tito get robbed in the finals of the ADCCs in 2001. Sherks another laughable one watch his standup I talked to many amateur and pro boxers you where impressed with his hands agianst BJ he just got caught by a superior striker. You know nothing about MMA I can tell right off the bat you have never trained in your life and fall to understand what you watch.