Anderson Silva to retire next year?

jimmie for the victory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You agree with me im assuming ?

 

yep, that guy is a dumbass.
No good MMA fighter are completly one dimentional.

 

Exactly now these days you cant be weak in any area and you gotta train hard with some tough cats. Look at the Champs Griffin,BJ,GSP,Forrest,Couture you always see them rolling and sparring with quality guys and its hard to detect any real glarring weakness is any of them.

 

yeah, hell even Kimbo Slice is less one dimentional than boxer.

 

You forgot to mention Forrest Griffin.

 

P.s. That CDN guy has very little knowledge of MMA. Not even gona start arguing with him. Pointless...

 

Tyson Griffin not FORREST Griffin: Forrest doesnt have any glaring weaknesses. Hes great on the ground and is an okay striker without any real KO power.

Kenny Florian: Is World-class at BJJ. But his Muay Thai is not real good. LOL. Its mediocre at best. Have you seen his kicks?

Serra: Good on the ground and heavyhands? That constitutes being well-rounded. Are you serious? Serra is a very mediocre striker.

Liddell: Has great takedown defense. But there is WAY more to wrestling than just TD. 1st fight with Rampage, Chuck had zero defense from half-guard. When 90% of your wins come via KO its pretty clear how many tools he has. The fight with Silva was the first time in a long time ive seen him shoot on an opponent. And when he got Silva on the ground he literally did nothing. The point is Liddell and other one-dimensional fighters are easy to prepare for. THey know they wont have to go to BRazil to fine tune their BJJ skills because Liddell is largely ineffective on the ground and refuses to go their in fights.

Gonzaga: Is great on the ground but he got brutalized against Couture on his feet. Gonzaga is not a bad striker but he isnt good by any means. Landing ONE KICK to Crocop does not mean you're a good striker. Is Randleman a good striker? Crocop got caught plain and simple.

Sherk: Great wrestler but the guy showed awful boxing against Penn. He lost to Penns....JAB. You do know that their is more to boxing than just hands, right? He showed no head & body movement, he was flat-footed, showed no defensive boxing ability, couldnt land any significant punches, couldnt get inside. His handspeed wasnt bad, it was actually pretty good for MMA but the guy was throwing at AIR. LOL. When he threw his "fast" combinations he wasnt even within 3 feet of Penn. Wasnt even close to landing. Obviously his reach had alot to do with it but his boxing was pretty mediocre. If you consistently get pegged in the face with a jab for 15 minutes and are not able to make any adjustments you arent a good striker. Plain and simple. His face got mangled due to Penns JAB.

Hughes: Is one-dimensional. This is not even up for debate. Horrible striker, great wrestler.

Tito: One-dimensional. Great wrestler, horrible striker. Why do you think hes been screwed in every single fight he cant get to the ground. Its because hes an awful striker. He couldnt even land on Machida. And he was chasing him the whole fight.

I currently train boxing and have trained Muay Thai and BJJ at an MMA gym so relax. You can PM me if you want and I can give you details to where I trained at if you're really that upset about it.

The point is your idea of being a good striker is much different than mine. I dont know how anybody in this world can come on here and say Florian is an effective striker. Florian is one of my favourite fighters and hes top 5 in terms of BJJ in MMA. Hes absolutely world-class in BJJ. But his Muay Thai is not great. His kicks are terrible and his hands are mediocre. Or that Gonzaga after landing ONE KICK is an effective striker. Does that mean LEsnar is a good striker as well? After all, he knocked down Herring.

There are well-rounded fighters like GSP, Penn, Fedor. But my god, not everybody is well-rounded and you dont have to be well-rounded to be great in MMA. Edgar, Guida have been outwrestling their opponents to victories for their whole career.

 

Kimbo has to be good at one thing to be classified as one-dimensional.

Secondly, what the hell is the point of bringing this up?

You do know they are separate combat sports right? And how do you even know boxers are one-dimensional. Some of them have better wrestlng backgrounds than some of the best MMA fighters in the world. Cintron was a more established wrestler than Sherk. Oneil Bell was a very good wrestler in college, Mike Alvarado was a highly accomplished wrestler in Colorado. They are certainly more accomplished wrestlers than Roger Huerta who has a high school wrestling background. Nobody is saying they would beat those guys in MMA but it shows that some if not many boxers have experienced success in other combat sports.

 

Ok, sparring and rolling with quality guys is what every fighter should do. Mayweather brings in world-class sparring partners.

Secondly, fighters like GSP, Penn, Fedor, Couture are well-rounded. Couture used to be fairly one-dimensional but his boxing has improved immensely over the past few years.

But the fact that you say you cant be weak in any area in MMA is an absolutely joke. You're talking about a sport that has Lesnar fighting for a title shot and lesnar has shown no other skills aside from wrestling. HE had Herrings back for 3 rounds and couldnt even secure a submission. He literally just outwrestled him.

Kongo is one-dimensional. Herring is one-dimensional. Guida, Edgar, Franca, Aoki, Shields, Smith, Velasquez are one-dimensional. There are plenty more one-dimensional fighters.

 

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I don't even want to respond to you cndboxinghomosexual.
you've lost all my respect to your knowledge when you've qualified Kenny Florian's mediocre for his MT. you just dont know ****.
get the **** outta here

 

Yeah hes like did you see his kicks ? Ken Flos kicks are pretty damn nasty. What really cant Kenny Florian do ?

 

Just relax man,

Tell me why Florians MT is good? Nobody is saying its terrible but its not good.

 

LOL, they are far from nasty.

The point is there are plenty of one-dimensional fighters in MMA and some of them are at or near the top of the sport.

BUT, thats not the point of this debate. The issue was regarding Anderson Silva.

For those of you who actually think Silva has a chance against RJJ needs to get their head examined. I honestly cant even fathom that there are people in this world who think Silva can defeat RJJ.

Silvas been beating the Chris Lebens, Rich Franklins, Dan Hendersons, Nate Marquardts, James Irvins, Travis Lutters of the world and looking good doing it. No question about it. But these guys arent world-class boxers or even good boxers for that matter and the sport he was competing at wasnt boxing.

Silva does not have world-class boxing skill nor does he have good boxing skills in relation to a top-tier boxer. Silva has no idea what its like being in there with a world-class boxer. There are so many different aspects to boxing that frankly you guys clearly dont understand. If you watch his 2nd professional boxing fight, he got tagged 3-4 times by an absolute tomato can handpicked for the popular Silva. If he fought RJJ it wouldnt even be competitive. Thats why RJJ wanted the fight so bad and why Dana White didnt allow it to happen. Dana White is not an idiot.

The logic in here is absolutely idiotic. The fact that you think because Silva trains boxing makes him a suitable challenger for a legend albeit old one in RJJ is an absolute joke. Like I said, going by your logic, Cintron can hang with Urijah Faber because Cintron wrestled in high school. Both are equally ridiculous. Nobody is saying Silva cant become a good boxer if he devoted his time to it. But, a 3 month training camp isnt going to enable him to beat or even be competitive against RJJ. HAHAHAHA. Its absolutely ridiculous to even think otherwise.

Top level K-1 fighters have failed miserably in Boxing, Silva wouldnt be any different. Stop being so protective of MMA, nobody is saying RJJ would win in MMA. Were talking about boxing, a sport that Silva is 1-1 in. The level of disrespect for boxing on a boxing forum is absolutely absurd. Its like you guys think its easy.

Browsing through Sherdog and other MMA websites im absolutely positive that MMA fans are by far the most uneducated, sensitive fanbase on the planet. The fact that people can bash me and yet not be able to critique my points is comical.