Anderson v Mcintyre

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by methil, Feb 9, 2008.


  1. Dunky McCafferty

    Dunky McCafferty Boxing Junkie banned

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    I understand your post, & as a fellow Ando fan I must admit I hope he pulls off the win. However, no need for slagging off McIntyre who is good lad himself & has won the title the hard way, beating Doherty & Ando himself.

    Im not happy with anyone who disrespects McIntyre on ESB, cos he did it the hard way, he deserves more respect than to be labelled a jumped up postman.
     
  2. African Cobra

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    Ricky Hatton, Junior Witter,Gavin Rees,David Barnes, Lenny Daws, Nigel Wright and Ted Bami. Frankly I think even a promising novice like Amir Khan would stop him. Daws has already made him quit. I don't think Rees is the best in the world or anywhere close but I can see him doing Lynes.
     
  3. maka

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    we would see a far better morrison against lynes if he got another crack...........defo:bbb
     
  4. elle

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    Olu - you seem to have expanded on the original six you thought of!

    With the exception of Hatton and Witter I would pick Lynes to beat the other light welters based on his current rich vein of form.

    As for Khan, he is more likely to face a fighter in a weight division below than above!

    About Rees - regardless of his World Title distinction personally I rank Lynes above him. I'm still undecided about Rees but hopefully some questions will be answered when he defends against Kotelnik. If Rees retains I think Lynes would be a worthy challenger for his Title and would be a decent reward for his recent form. On the other hand, if Rees were to lose to Kotelnik a consolation might be for him to challenge for Lynes European Title. Either way its a fight I'd like to see.

    You keep bringing up Lynes loss to Daws but still seem to fail to recognise Lynes was unwell going into that fight - apparently he had a virus. His corner pulled him out because he was coughing up blood and having trouble breathing. I'm not saying this to make excuses for that loss but it was a factor - even Daws himself said his win against him wasn't as sweet as some people may think as he now knew Lynes wasn't 100% for that fight.

    Lynes is a much improved boxer now. Five wins and two Titles since his loss to Daws isn't bad. Compare his record to Daws since - no disrespect to him. Lynes has moved on. Please lets try and do the same. :good
     
  5. elle

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    Think that fight against Lynes was only Morrison's first defence of the British after he clinched the Title in his win (SD?) over Daws.
     
  6. Top Dog

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    Emma! How upset will you be when Ando wins his title back and then ktfo of Kell:tong
     
  7. African Cobra

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    You know what Maka I agree with you.
     
  8. African Cobra

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    I am sorry to argue with you but one thing I do know is boxing. If Ajose had lost to Nigel Wright we would not have made any complaints because to claim you are unwell etc after a loss sounds weak and detracts from the other fighter. Lynes quit and was sick because Daws made him sick and made him quit.

    Fighters are not always 100% for their fights nothing new in that. When we fought Wright we hardly had any preparation but we did not moan we did what we had to do which was to win and adapt to win. Lynes clearly does not deserve a title shot and will only get one if a champion is looking for an easy defence.

    I have seen Lynes also stopped by fellow African Malinga and his pacifist effort against Witter.

    If Lynes was true warrior he would insist on avenging his defeats. I know for a fact he was very interested in the Commonwealth until Ajose picked up the title and we all know why? It is an open secret in the profession.
     
  9. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    Olu I really don't want to end up on a collision course with you again over Lynes especially after you accepted my olive branch in another thread recently.

    I merely cited a factor in relation to Lynes defeat to Daws - the intention was not to detract anything from his opponent.

    Similarly, I'm sure you sharing info with us about Ajose after his fights is made with the best intentions. There is always the danger though that some may think you mentioning Ajose had niggly injuries going into the Reid fight or his non existent preparation for the Wright fight were excuses for his performances rather than just factors to take into consideration.

    You mention Malinga and Witter. From what I can gather Malinga hasn't fought for the past year. As for Lynes 'pacifist' effort against Witter - I seem to recall Lynes came out of that fight with a lot of credit after many hadn't given him a chance. Lynes took him the distance and his style did trouble Witter causing him to mis-time shots. I thought overall his balance, footwork, movement, accurate counter punching and composure was good during that fight but I'd agree he could have benefitted from being more aggressive. Still, there is no shame in losing to a World Champion like Witter.

    This talk about Lynes and the Commonwealth reminds me of another comment you made about Witter giving up the Commonwealth rather than facing Ajose ....

    You say Lynes doesn't deserve a Title shot. I think he is going about things the right way and is hopefully getting himself in contention. No disrespect to Rees but if he can get a World Title shot then anything can happen.
     
  10. African Cobra

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    Rees is not the best or far from it. I have my theories about the Mbaye contest but I will never voice them.

    As for Lynes he could not be aggressive even if he was insulted in the worst. He fights scared hence against Witter he merely came to survive and not to win.

    Ajose's performance against Reid was excellent. Had it been a British fighter they would have been talking about the excellent boxing clinic he displayed. He won every minute of every round as shown by the judges scorecard. Even Gary Reid admitted to me that Ajose was the best he had fought afterwards. The 1st 6 rounds were fantastic and worldclass however his performance dropped off in the 2nd half a bit. We did not push him to go all out for the stoppage especially as he actually went into the contest with some niggly injuries. Why take unnecessary chances when he was beating the living daylights out of his opponent.

    Had Ajose lost to Wright we would take the circumstances to the grave as it would be wrong to distract from a fighters win. That is not done. It is part of the unwritten code.

    As for Witter I am no fan of his fan but not being a fan willl never blind me to his qualities as a fighter. Witter I know for a fact and his handlers understand exactly the type of threat they will face in Ajose and they will never take this as a voluntary it will be because they are forced to take it as a voluntary. The difference between Lynes and Witter is like the night and day.

    I am not falling out with you but I have to point out Lynes failings. As you know I am not a fan of Lynes.
     
  11. elle

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    I think its fair to say Rees is the weakest of the world champions at the weight and the Rees v M'Baye fight was an odd one.

    For someone who supposedly cannot be aggressive Lynes did a good job of dropping Mutley (who is a decent puncher) during the 8th round. Mutley is no pushover and yet Lynes stopped him quicker than anyone else during his pro career.

    After he took Witter the distance (and that wasn't a shutout) I seem to recall he got quite a bit of credit for his effort - particularly for a fighter you say just came to survive.

    About not pushing Ajose to go for the stoppage against Reid - I think thats mainly why some questions were asked about Ajose after Reid took him the distance when fighters like Morrison and Mutley (who Lynes beat back to back) had stopped him.

    I've noted your comments about it being wrong to distract from a fighters win and that its not the done thing. Yet your suggestion Mutley was drained at the weight when Lynes beat him indicates this unwritten code doesn't apply to Lynes wins????

    Its a shame about Ajose's lack of preparation and performance against Wright recently as he could have used that opportunity to send out a message to the likes of Witter that he was a serious threat.

    Olu - I appreciate you are not a fan of Lynes but just as you are entitled to point out his so-called failings others are entitled to debate his merits. :good
     
  12. GazOC

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    I'm really looking forward to this one, could be a *******. I've got to go with Anderson for the rematch, assuming he can put the last fight behind him.
     
  13. Gizmoboxing

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    Seen Kev this morning, hes looking in GREAT shape!!! Anyone want to bet some $ lol AND THE NEW, BRITISH WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION................


    K E V I N

    A N D E R S O N



    LOLLOLLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLLOL!!!!!! If youre wondering what Im laughing at its EMMA Kell gonna ktfo Ando. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! lollollollol.

    Kev gonna RETIRE HIM!!!!!!!!!!
     
  14. dwilson

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    Ajose looked **** scared of being tagged by Reid and that is why he kept his distance.
     
  15. Max Molyneux

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    He'll lose a decision again, his defence Is terrible and he was hurt by Ali and Jones.

    If he was so overworked In tough fights then why Is he fighting again so soon?