Anderson vs Jones on Friday

The guys that are slaughtering Ando I hope think about his record compared to guys like Murray & Mitchell, who turned pro around the same time as ando & have fought nothing but stiffs & bums(stiff bums?) since.

The people who pick on Ando but talk up Murray or Mitchell should take a step back & think about what it is that makes them a boxing fan. Flashy records, or great fights? Cos its as stright down the middle as that.

 

Dunky, taking the tough route doesn'.t make you an better.

If your rubbish, you're likely to be quite rubbish no matetr what.

 

I disagree. Taking the tough route in boxing can be the making of a fighter. You can learn a lot more in one tough fight than you learn fighting 10 stiffs in a row.

Look at some of the great mexican fighters, getting thrown in at the deep end early in their careers made them the great fighters they are today. Brit fans nowadays are too obsessed with the 0. Sometimes an L on a record stands for learning IMO.

But if you are going to persist with the Andos crap line, fair enough, I aint gonna change your mind. Such is life on ESB sometimes, & theres no point in arguing the point any further with your good self. immovable object vs unstoppable force & all that.

 

Look mate.

Scottish fighters have been discriminated against forever. They all have to take the tough route, they have no choice, they are Scottish.

Now with so many fighters taking the tough route and so few fighters emerging anny good. The tough route is bad. Only Arthur has really survived, and sort of Harrison.

 

So by your reckoning only Alex Arthur has survived the 'tough route' by being an interim WBO champion, & Scott Harrison has only 'sort of' survived the 'tough route' despite being a two time WBO champion???

Nice logic Joe!

As I said before, Im not going to change your "Ando is pure rubbish" opinion, & you arent going to change my mind that Ando is a good fighter who deserves credit for his achievements so far, so we are best just ending our wee debate! Nothing personal, I just dont see the point in you saying Ando is crap, & me saying you arent giving him enough credit. Lifes too short for us to argue with each other again & again & again on the same subject.

Best if we just agreed to disagree & went our own ESB seperate ways I think! Such is life...

 

Stay away from out of date Haggis.:dead

 

I'm a big fan of Kevins and have really just regarded him as a Commonwealth/perhaps Euro contender.

I see Jackson Osei Bonsu (current Euro champ) is now in some of the World top 10 rankings which could see him vacating and leaving the Euro belt up for grabs and I think Kev would be one of the first in line for a shot at it.

Obviously if that does happen then all the snipers are out again saying he didn't win the title from the champ etc but what can he do? Gilmore said he would try get him a shot at Bonsu but appears to have failed.

Kev is still only 24 so that leaves him what? 6/7 years at the top? I don't know how people can rule out a World title of some sort at this stage and although I said earlier a regard him more of Euro/Commonwealth contender at the moment - hey, never say never.

If Gavin Rees can, then **** it, why not?

 

Beating McGee isn't much of a pinacle for someones career.

I will convince you Ando, is (not **** as such, but) unexceptional.

You are a failure unless you win a world title (one of the big 4) these days. And Harrison, did he really survive, taking on Guzman would have been tough, that is definitely what sent him over the edge. Video footage of Joan. I was looking forward to that fight and so was Frank (and probably boxing fans the world over).

'Ando' requires a huge slice of luck to win a (probably vacant) European title and will never, ever win a World Title, seeing as he is not promoted by Frank Warren. Just a friendly warning.

You will look back in 5 years and think, "I should have just given up on Scotch fighters and followed the clearly talented Joe Calzaghe in the twighlight of his legendary career."

 

Calzaghe started off well with bouts against Eubank and Ried etc but he then spends nearly a decade without fighting another live opponent (Lacy doesnt count imo as he was over rated and untested)

Anderson gets slated after all his fights but he keeps winning them (Nuumbembe imo was a win for Ando and all the Sky pundits etc agreed as did most fans I spoke to North and South of the border)

At 24 years old with 21 fights there is plenty of time for improvement and no one can say he is taking easy opponents as his record is littered with some of the toughest names on the domestic scene.


If there's a will, there's a way and he has a very strong will :yep:happy:thumbsup

 

Tough for Ando maybe.

Easy for Calzaghe maybe.

 

Hi Terry.

I voted for Fewkes before the Anderson fight and gave similar reasons on the poll we have here on ESB! Khan wasn't on the list of nominees this year. No surprise that Anderson is leading our poll by some margin
and I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if he won.

I also hope he goes on to win the Lonsdale Belt outright - one more and its his!

Whoever is next for him he deserves to do well - I expect he will probably defend the British Title a couple more times before trying to make an impact at euro level though.

 

I can only say, I would rather watch a fired up Anderson instead of a slapper Calzaghe:tong :tong

 

You are entitled to your opinion mate.

Although you deserve to suffer an eternity of misery for possessing such views.

 

Some of you guys are a little too hard on Anderson:? Dunky your right about the Mexican effect A loss will toughen Anderson up and he's already learned from it. Being an American I've only seen youtube highlights of his Magee & Jones bouts and another vid. I know highlights can make anyone look good but Anderson is in the mix when you compare him to top American prospects. Look at our then-top prospect Delvin Rodriguez got KTFO by ****in Jesse Feliciano Anderson would beat the hell out of Feliciano and seeing how Jones fought his heart out he could also beat Feliciano. Chavez Jr has only fought bums after 34 fights. Anderson has fought tougher opponents than most prospects. There's only a few welter prospects I'd rate ahead of him. I'd like to see him on US TV so I can judge for my self.

 

Thanks, & welcome to ESB:good