Andrade: "I did not leave the neutral corner!"

What about the ropes, Bute needs the ropes to stand up. Is that ok by the rules?

 

Pure robbery.

 

:good

Marlon Was Wright

 

In all fairness, the ref did look at Bute for a few seconds before counting or using time to make sure Andrade was at neutral corner.

Any ref that cares for the wellbeing of a fighter would have counted over Bute doing the round(not talking about the KD). As the poster rightfully said, Bute was all over the place, and not really there, nor fighting back - he fought for survival for most of the round. Had Andrade been a less crude, and more precise puncher - Bute could have been seriously hurt - its a refs job to make sure it doesn't come to that.

It is plainfully obvious that the ref wanted to aid Bute(not just in the final round), but in doing so, he put Butes wellbeing into jeopardy. Now it turned out alright for him, but it could have ended differently. I even think that several counts would have prevented the KD, or at least decreased the chances thereof.

 

On another point: I remember when Brian Nielsen fought his match no. 50 at HW, and met Dicky Ryan. He thrashed Dicky for several rounds, till he suddenly came out for the 7th round I think. Now Brian was suddenly in a total haze(not from any punching), and not there at all. It was ****ing scary. However, it took Ryan the whole round to fell the dane, while Brian was in another world.

They said afterwards that it was because Brian was dehydrated. And to me, it looked like the same for Bute, because I didn't see him at a haze from punches at all. He just was from the start of the round or close to.

Any comments on that?

 

I am afraid the rules obliged the referee to take action:

Rule No. 4:

"When a contestant has been knocked down, the referee will order the standing contestant to the farthest neutral corner and begin the count. If the contestant standing leaves the corner before the count has been completed, the referee shall discontinue the count and order the standing contestant back into the corner. The count will not resume until the standing contestant has returned to the neutral corner."

http://www.ibf-usba-boxing.com/userfiles/File/IBF-USBA%20Bout%20Rules.pdf

The referee followed the rule to the letter.​

The referee was not aware there was no more time left on the clock because the timekeeper failed to ring the bell to warn him, the moment Bute had risen with his hands clear of the floor, six seconds after the end of the three minute period, eight seconds after he was knocked down. If he had been aware the time had run out, he wouldn't have continued the count, because it was pointless to do so after the end of the fight. Bute had beaten the count, so the fight was over.

I explain this issue and all of the main others in my article:

"Lucian Bute, Librado Andrade, Marlon B. Wright and the Incompetent Timekeeper – A Non-Controversy"

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=17659&more=1

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What is plain to see is that the referee thought Bute had enough left in the tank to make it to the three minute mark and to get up from a knockdown. It was only as far as that that Bute had to be able to continue, because this was a 12 round fight and this one in question was the last. The referee's judgement was proved right. Bute made it to within 2 seconds of the three minute mark without taking too much punishment from Andrade, he was knocked down, he beat the count by rising within eight seconds of the knockdown, so he deserved to listen to the judge's verdict. The referee isn't a good, experienced Championship referee for nothing.

 

Why did the ref say afterwards that if Andrade had been in his neutral corner, he would have won?

 

I am not talking about the KD, but the round in its entirety.

 

Because he didn't know the fight had already been over by that point, since the timekeeper failed to ring the bell the moment Bute had risen with his hands clear of the floor. The referee thought there was still time left of the three minute round for the fight to continue, and he thought Bute in no position to continue to fight.

I've explained this issue and others similar in my article:

"Lucian Bute, Librado Andrade, Marlon B. Wright and the Incompetent Timekeeper – A Non-Controversy"

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=17659&more=1

Thanks.