Andrade: "I did not leave the neutral corner!"

That is bull**** really, he shook the hands of Bute and stopped the fight as soon as he turned his attention towards Bute, when he was up. Of course he knew the fight was over by then.

 

So was I. The referee would have robbed Bute if he had stopped the fight whilst Bute was hanging on to Andrade for dear life because Andrade wasn't hurting him much and because as soon as the clinch was broken up, Bute was falling towards the floor for a count anyway. The referee's good judgement prevailed and he broke the clinch allowing Andrade a free shot at Bute. This shot put him down for the count. Bute was not hurt enough not to be able to beat the count, yet again proving that if the referee had stopped the fight early, he would have done so prematurely, for no good reason. You don't rob a Champion of his title after he dominated all night, in the last thirty seconds, when his opponent doesn't himself have the energy to hurt him much, when it looks like he is going to get knocked down for a count anyway, before the end of the round. You let him take one extra punch that puts him down, and then you see whether he is hurt enough to stay down, or strong enough to get up. Good judgement from a good referee.

 

I have it - I have gotten to see it again - but will do now.

Btw, what is your comment concerning my Brian Nielsen analogy? On the other page.

 

No.

The referee did not shake Bute's hands. He wiped his gloves after Bute lifted them up to signal that he was willing to continue, when asked to do so by the referee.

The referee didn't stop the fight as soon as he turned his attention towards Bute; he stopped the fight after the timekeeper finally decided to ring the bell.

Please watch the fight before commenting on it.

There is a link to the final round in my article.

 

Come now - any fighter than is out of it - ready to fall or not, should be counted over. It's their job to protect fighters. Not to make assessments either or not they have enough left in the tank, or if it is indeed the last round. You are still referring to the last 20 secs of the round, when in truth the situation was like this for most of the round.

 

0:29 left of the round - the ref should have counted over Bute
0:20 left of the round - he most certainly should.

Several times after this Bute was out, but not down. 3-4 secs before the KD Andrade could have severely caused Bute damage, but he didn't hit cleanly and Bute was saved by the corner post. The ref could have avoided the KD or lessened the chances of permanent damage. However, in his pursuit to aid Bute, he failed him.

 

Sorry after viewing this again, I don't think there is a comparison. I just think that Bute was exhausted - sorry for bringing it up.

 

illl give you the first part, but the second part is completely false the ref was 100% aware that there was no more time left, You cannot be saved by the bell in any round including the 12th and final round and besides as soon as resumed back to Bute and after he finished the count he did not let Bute go to his corner without even looking back at ANdrade again before readily let the 2 fight again.​

 

And therefor let the 10 count take 24 seconds to be sure to give Bute must chance to be able to fight on, or was it to be sure that the finally bell would sound when the long count was finished, so Bute had won the fight, even though he was in no condition to continue ??. Either way, the long count was to Bute.s benefit :?

 

If his job was to protect the fighters even when they weren't seriously hurt, in their judgement, and even when they looked like they were likely to last the round, in their estimation, then he should have stopped the fight after round nine or ten, when it was obvious Andrade was getting battered and didn't have the skills to defend himself.

But this is not what the job of the referee is. His job is to decide whether the fighter is not badly enough hurt that the fight has to be stopped there and then. His job is to decide whether the fighter looks like he can outlast the storm until the end of the round.

If we used your judgement on this matter, 80% of all fights that go the distance would get stopped early. Thank god you are not the referee, because many a champion or challenger has weathered the storm to come back stronger and win, or has dug deep enough to make it through to the final round, not least, Andrade in this fight, or Andrade in his fight against Kessler.

Thank god the referee has good judgement.

If Bute had been knocked out by Andrade and he'd have had to go to hospital, you might have a case. But as things stand, you have no case, I'm afraid. Bute wasn't badly hurt at all. He fell down mainly due to exhaustion.

 

It took exactly 20 seconds from the moment Bute was knocked down to the moment the referee finished his count.

Please watch the fight before commenting on it.

 

If you read my article, you will undestand why Bute wasn't saved by the bell. I don't understand what you mean in the last part of your post.

 

I am not sure if it is enough to stand and hang on the ropes, but regardless of the refs counting that was totally off - I counted to 8 or 9 till Bute was up from the time he went down; ergo disregarding the ref fully.