Andre Berto; "haymon gave everybody the call...2k17 EVERYBODY IS FIGHTING EVERYBODY!!!!"

Please give me more than 5 instances where you think this effected a fights results.

 

you could say anytime an american gets a close decision or disputed or robbery in america this comes into play, they have no reason not to follow the rules that every other country follow

why does america not bring in neutral referees like every other country in the world is the real question? and no real boxing fan should be happy with that unfair advantage that takes place in no other country or barely any sport i can think of

 

No one else finds it a pathetic statement for boxing?

Someone actually had to "Give the command"? So they fully admit to putting on bs fights before, but that's cool, cuz NOW they're gonna actually fight? That is sad man. Makes the sport look worse than it already does.

 

The UK is the land of boxing robberies. Brian Rose vs Javier Francisco Maciel, Dereck Chisora getting early stoppages vs Malik Scott and Edmund Gerber, Ricky Burns vs Raymundo Beltran, 2012 Olympics with Savon and Khytrov losing to British fighters Joshua and Ogogo, Cleverly vs Kuziemski, Jamie McDonnell vs Liborio Solis, etc.

 

id marciel winning, scott didn't get up off the canvas at teh right time, if the guy can't count he has no business in the boxing ring, you can complain that he could have continued but he didn't get up in time., beltran was a bad decision and the olympics were bad

also the mcdonnell solis fight didn't take place in the uk so no idea whys that there

the point im making is that why is america the only country in the world that doesn't bring in neutral judges for world title fights. Why do they get the unfair advantage? in no other sport or any other country does anyone get that advantage

 

Ah right, the McDonell fight was in Monaco. To be perfectly honest, I have no idea how judges are selected for fights or what the differences are in how they are picked from country to country.

 

in every other country in the world for a world title fight neutral judges have to be picked and they are. In america this rule doesn't apply, in Nevada its actually part of the rules that all the judges have to be american. That is insane,unfair and stacking the deck in their favour

 

So when two Americans are fighting, and there's a close decision or disputed decision or robbery, who's fault is it then? Did the judges like one American more? I'm not 100% on all the different sanctioning bodies rules, but wouldn't they apply the same in every country? Can you please educate me on that.

 

Yeah, I hear you on that.

 

It seems in Nevada its the rule that you have to have american judges,not sure about other states but they all seem to have only american judges for title fights, maybe other countries are more interested in fairness? I don't know, but no other country does it like that

 

Do you know where these rules are written down and who's they are?

I was just checking out the judges for some Ricky Burns fights, and for the world titles the judges were mixed; but for the WBO international title he had three Brits. So does that mean this only applies to world titles? But that can't be right either because all three judges were British for Bellew vs Cleverly for the WBO light heavyweight title back in 2011. I guess it's okay because they are both British? Saunders vs Lee was an all British affair too.

Maybe, people just don't trust the British? No, I'm seeing the same thing in Japan and Germany, and we all know how trustworthy they are. I'm seeing that when Wilder fought guys like Splzika there were international judges, but that was contested in New York. So it could be just a Las Vegas thing, except when Crawford fought Postol in Vegas there was an Italian judge. When Crawford fought Dierry Jean in Omaha, Nebraska there was a judge from Puerto Rico. Let's go back to when Ward fought Froch in New Jersey. They had judges from three different countries. Same goes for when Ward fought Abraham and Kessler in California.

You know where I think the confusion arises: the Kovalev Ward fight. You see Ward as an American and Kovalev as a Russian, but Kovalev has American citizenship and lives in Florida. That's probably why all three judges were American. They are all British when two British citizens square off against each other too.

No, wait. When Pac fought Floyd all the judges were American. What the hell is going on?

 

It's ridiculous this wasn't the orders from day 1.

Make competive fights and the fans will watch. It's not rocket science.

An example being Errol Spence v Brook. If Spence will fight brook in the UK for 25% then let him take the fight.

Promoters and fighters themselves need to stop thinking that a risky fight where you might lose isnt worth it.

A loss isn't the end. Boxing has this crazy mentality where losses are seen as game over. Everyone loses, it's the name of the game.

MMA doesn't have this issue.

 

Will they? Brook will travel no problem but I have huge doubts that Hayman will pay such a big purse to get the fight in the US when it's such a risky fight for Spence

 

Unions my friend. LMAO

 

IS Algieri also getting out of his cage