Andre Berto: Suspect Chin???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Zakman, Jul 27, 2007.


  1. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Paul Williams got dropped with that uppercut(which he wouldn't) stumbled to the floor again you'd be sayin he's got a bad chin. But since it's heavily hyped Berto who people said had a glass chin before the fight get's dropped you say anybody could get dropped with that shot. I don't think so. Anthony Peterson got hit with a punch he didn't see by that Colombian he fought and he didn't wobble or anything. It was pretty clear the Colombian had some firepower too. Rivera is only a decent puncher. If Berto was dropped by a big puncher I'd give him the benefit of the doubt but he wasn't.
     
  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    He got hit, went down, tried to get up real fast and then stumbled. When he got up he didn't seem hurt. He seemed upset that he went down, and looked ready to attack again.
     
  3. nervousxtian

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    He never fully got up, he went down from the shot, and then tried to stand straight up, but he was dazed a bit and kinda stumbled forward, regained his balance and was right up. No where near getting counted out, the stumble looked more like, what the hell just happened then being completely out of it.

    Watch the fight before commenting on it, you'll have a better perspective of what happened.
     
  4. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    :lol: :lol:
     
  5. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ESBers know well that you claim that anyone who ever gets knocked down has a lousy chin and, since in the buisness of professional fighting guys get knocked down and out all the time, you're bound to be right once in a while. You're totally, totally wrong the vast majority of the time.
     
  6. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    I will, I am simply commenting on the getting up and stumbling down issue....if you get up and stumble down..that';s it....
     
  7. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Where the hell does it say that. He didn't get fully up and then fall over, it wasn't that, he just tried to bounce right back up, fell forward, got his balance and got up.

    You're trying to make it something that it's not.
     
  8. Druid

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    The truth is that is it wasn't the end of the round and/or the Berto's corner hadn't delayed the start of the next round berto would likely have been knocked out. He got lucky! I don't think one can make a definitive determination on his chin due to one knock down, but that is why the word suspect can be used.

    I wonder what people would be saying here if he had ben KD'd earlier in the round and then KO'd after he got up. It certainly would be a stumble in his ascension. He got lucky last night!
     
  9. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cosme has power???

    I dunno, maybe he had some pop in the past, but what I saw last night was a guy that was slinging wet noodles the whole fight. He threw maybe two good power punches, one of which was the left uppercut that floored Berto.

    Maybe he had good power and technique a few years ago, but again that's not what I saw on friday. His real asset seems to be his defense. For the first part of the fight he was able to avoid most of the quick combos that an aggressive Berto was throwing.

    Berto is overhyped. All of the boxing higher ups talk about him as the 'next big thing', but the Peterson bothers, just to name two, are a lot better.
     
  10. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    It was a ****in flash knockdown.

    What the **** is wrong with you people?
     
  11. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  12. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Slap yourself. :patsch
     
  13. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    People around here talk so much ****.

    The guy was on the biggest stage of his life and sometimes it's good for a fighter to get knocked down.

    He knows what he's capable of and that he's not invulnerable.

    Sure, I think he was headhunting too much, and neglecting the jab, but he was also trying to put on a show and KO the guy as quickly as possible.

    People on this site **** me the **** off.

    Bunch of haters.
     
  14. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    He behaved well after the KD, no doubt. But I am in full agreement with Zakman.. it's definitley not "glass", but it surely is "shaky".

    Rivera's just an average hitter, nothing like a Cotto.

    Of course, "that punch woulda KD'd anybody!", wrong... explain why Judah lands an even better flush uppercut with his speed and power, the type that finished off Rivera, which a hard hitter in Berto AND Julio couldn't do, yet Cotto didn't even drop...

    Cotto's got a suspect chin, Berto doesn't. Great logic guys.
     
  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Mate, he was ****ing wobbly, give it 30 seconds and he'd have been finished off. Notice why the corner took the extra time for him to recover.