Andre Berto VS Cotto, Marg and P.W.

Too soon for Berto. Another year or w/ 3-4 fights and he'll be ready.

 

Cosme Rivera and David Estrada are two very solid gatekeepers and he beat both of them pretty easily.

 

He is a HBO fighter. Remember Michael Grant. Moved up too fast and should have lost to Golota, but that is another story. He then was fed to Lewis and he was then ruined. Never mind that I believe Berto should not be the WBC champ, but he should not have been rated number one. He has not fought any former champs and I believe Zab would stop him. Collazo would be the safest test for him right now. He is going to be protected and his promoter will milk the belt until a big money fight appears. This is no fault of Berto. He did his job and now holds the oldest belt out there.

 

i think that right now Berto will lose to Cotto , Margarito and Williams. He's to green and he will fail under pressure in my opinion.

 

Not ready for those three yet, too strong and too talented for him. Mosely way too experienced but Cintron, Judah,or Collazo would be good winnable fights for Berto,IMO!

 

:good

 

He might beat Margarita right now. We can't be sure how good Bert's chin is though, can we?

 

He got knockdown once and the world said he was overrated after he beat Rivera fthe rest of the fight.

Almost every fighter has been knockdown in their Careers. But I love how Berto throws that uppercut. Also I never knew that Margo was this one punch knockout guy. He is active, but thats it

 

Andre Berto is in the same boat as Amir Khan to an extent. They are both very skilled boxers, but right now neither of them can expect to get in the ring with the best of their division and be competitive for 12 rounds. Berto would be horribly outworked and outlanded by Margarito and Williams. He'd be badly outboxed and outpunched by Miguel Cotto. Amir Khan won't ever be able to beat the best of his division in my opinion, but Berto needs a few more fights before he wants to step up against the big boys of the welterweight division.

Everybody saying Berto beating Cintron and Collazo is a sure thing are dreaming also. Cintron is a concussive puncher, and Berto has looked vunerable in the past against lesser fighters and punchers than Cintron. Collazo on the other hand gave Hatton all he could handle, albeit a welterweight Hatton, but he has been competitive with much more establisher fighters than Berto. Having said that, I'd favour Berto to beat Collazo over 12 rounds, but the Cintron fight all depends on whether or not Berto can take those right hands. Not every fighter has the chin Margarito has.

 

It's kind of strange with Andre Berto - he's impressive for a prospect, but when you consider he picked up a fraudelant title (the WBC Welterweight Champion? Goes to show you the politics of boxing).

I would favor almost every top 10 Welterweight to defeat Berto. The strange thing is I can't say really what he's doing wrong - he isn't doing anything wrong, really. It's that he's short, a little chinny (what was it, the David Estrada fight? Can't remember), and does not have a very good reach. So, against bottom of the top 10, top 15 guys, he'll be able to box in and out with his speed. But against, say, a guy like Zab Judah, he's going to taste world class power. I don't think he'll be able to handle it.

There really isn't much room for improvement. He holds a belt, so pretty soon, we'll find out what he's made of.

 

A fighter getting in the ring with the likes of Estrada is a whole different story to getting in with an actual contender. That's what some people here, not all, are failing to realise. I have never outright said Berto would lose to all top 10 Welterweights but only a misinformed man would bet on him doing so. Eventually a fighter has to make that step up, and once Berto fights a man like Zab Judah, we will be able to properly access how he would do against welterweight contenders. In my opinion, Zab is no more a contender than he is a gatekeeper these days.

 

I agree - I don't think David Estrada was ranked in the top ten. But he gave Andre Berto a fight - Estrada is tough, and Berto prevailed.

But when Berto fights a bottom of the top-10 fighter, we will be able to get a better idea of how he will handle the world class.

He already has a trinket belt - the WBC one. So he's going to be facing progressively harder competition.

Zab Judah comes to mind - he's on the lower end of the rankings, but is still ranked. He has power, if not the greatest attention-span. I'd say a Berto fight against the LOSER of Clottey-Judah (probably Judah) would be a wise move for him.

But against the upper portion of the rankings - I'm talking the Mosleys, Margaritos and Cottos of the world, I don't think he's ready.

My problem with him is that he's already got a title, and I don't see much room for improvement. He basically is what he is.

 

YUP = :yep

 

\ lOOK AT ALL THE WBC CHAMPS SINCE MOSLEY. I think Berto will have a great future

 

I concur with previous opinions that Berto cannot beat Cotto, Margarito, or Williams at his juncture. But I want to ask a question that one previous post points out. It was stated that Berto captured a fraudulent belt in the WBC welterweight title. Would you say that any of the other champions and the belts they hold are fraudulent: Cotto's WBA welterweight title, Margarito's (former, I believe) IBF welterweight title, or Williams' WBO welterweight title? Which titleholder is the most legitimate?

IMO, I think it's Cotto.