Andre Dirrell vs Mikkel Kessler

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  1. rorschach51

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    I think Dirrell would beat Kessler, as long as it's fought at a neutral location.
     
  2. BatTheMan

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    Dirrell should settle matters with Abraham first.
     
  3. boxingboy

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    ^^^AA is back at 160 I think
     
  4. MichiganWarrior

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    Easy work for Dirrell. Stylistic, talent, speed, power, skill mismatch.
     
  5. Insidious

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    the only work that is easy for Dirrell is driving a cab:deal
     
  6. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    If Andre Dirrell was German and drove a cab, Kessler would've fought him yesterday because thats basically his whole career.

    But Kessler doesnt want to get treated and beat up again. He knows that if Andre Ward could punk him, Dirrell would clown him out of boxing for good.
     
  7. AnotherFan

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    What AA did to Andre might very well have traumatized him, considering Andre seemed punch scared already before that incident. How will he react to pressure from a good opponent today? Obviously there would be no big left hooks landing for Kesslers part, but jabs and bodyshots might work. Kessler is slow, but not as painfully slow as Froch, and his footwork is a little bit better. I cant see this as a given win for Dirrell.
     
  8. "TKO"

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    This thread is c-r-a-c-k-e-r-s!!!

    What has Dirrell ever done to make anyone think he's just going to get in there and waltz away with it against a top class operator like Kessler?

    We know that Kessler will lose to a top 5 p4p level operator. We also know that he will find out pretty much anyone who is not at that level. Dirrell at this stage is more hype than accomplishment. He's 28 years old and his only notable win was one where he ended the fight out cold. Apart from that, Hanshaw? Oganov? Scraping the barrel there. Contrast that to Kessler who by the time he was the same age had already beat Siaca, Beyer, Mundine, Lucas and Andrade, all top ten fighters, and fought Calzaghe as well.

    Dirrell is one of the only fighters who seems to get a pass over far more proven fighters without having to actually do anything to prove himself. His big advantage in this one is speed. That's it. People less knowledgeable than experts such as myself seem to confuse speed and athleticism with skill. It is not the same thing. Kessler does most things well. People claim he's just a one two fighter. He's not. It's a lazy stereotyped criticism made by less knowledgeable types who can't analyse. Kessler's uppercut is a thing of beauty, he throws wicked bodyshots and just flattened Green with a left hook.

    Dirre at the moment is a lot of hype, a fair bit of potential and little actual accomplishment. To beat Kessler, you have to have speed. But you also need to be prepared to take the fight to him when required. To up the pace, take him out of his comfort zone. I've never seen anyone beat Kessler by running from him. Dirrell ran like a thief from Froch. Kessler took the ring centre and backed Froch up. Kessler is surprisingly effective at walking down runners. Dirrell does have the superior defence but he can't hurt Kessler and you actually need to fight not just frustrate the guy.

    I haven't seen the full fight from last night yet so if Kessler looked as bad as some said then Dirrell may be in with a chance. He is 28 after all, physical prime and all - Kessler'd best years look to be behind him. But the Kessler of a few years ago runs him out of the ring in a fight that looks similar to Kessler- Mundine. If Dirrell wins this it'll be a reflection of how far Kessler has fallen.
     
  9. Faetter_BR

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    Kessler has fought two Germans - one a reigning WBC champion (win by KO) and the other a former european champion in Germany (win by KO). Kessler has fought the best of the division and fought abroad - to indicate that Kessler ducks opponents is just plain wrong.

    Dirrell couldn't handle Froch and everything Froch does Kessler does just a little better - I can't for the life of me see why Dirrell should be the favourite for such a fight ... But let Dirrell do something to earn him a shot at Kessler first - atm Dirrell isn't interesting as an opponent for Kessler :)
     
  10. RazorHandz

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    To all the Kessler fanboys who asked what has Dirrell done...well what has Kessler done? Only good win on his resume is against Froch who Dirrell beat more decisively but got robbed. Dirrell also has a victory over Abraham. He's about as proven as Kessler if not more. Kessler doesn't deserve credit for getting dominated by Ward.
     
  11. tliang1000

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    Dirrell is a such an awesome talent, i voted for KO bc Kessler is not hard to hit and Dirrell can really pack a punch. I think he will be too quick for Kessler.
     
  12. Faetter_BR

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    That is just cute ... Kessler is a three times worldchampion. He has beaten people like Siaca, Lucas, Mundine (away), Beyer, Andrade and Froch - Who he beat - Dirrell lost. As for Dirrells win against Abraham - look at Froch-Abraham to get an idea on how Kessler would do against a fighter like Abraham :)

    Dirrell's most notable wins are Oganov and Abraham - two hardhitters without much skills.

    I think a fight between Kessler and Dirrell woud be great - and a close to 50/50 fight (depending on where it's fought) - just don't think that he is a likely opponent at this time - there is not enough money in it to make it happen. Dirrell will have to prove himself a bit more before the fight makes sense.
     
  13. DanishFightfan

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    Who has Dirrell beaten to make his career more creditable than Kessler's?
     
  14. tliang1000

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    Kessler has a better career but Dirrell will school him.
     
  15. DanishFightfan

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    [quote="TKO";12883124]This thread is c-r-a-c-k-e-r-s!!!

    What has Dirrell ever done to make anyone think he's just going to get in there and waltz away with it against a top class operator like Kessler?

    We know that Kessler will lose to a top 5 p4p level operator. We also know that he will find out pretty much anyone who is not at that level. Dirrell at this stage is more hype than accomplishment. He's 28 years old and his only notable win was one where he ended the fight out cold. Apart from that, Hanshaw? Oganov? Scraping the barrel there. Contrast that to Kessler who by the time he was the same age had already beat Siaca, Beyer, Mundine, Lucas and Andrade, all top ten fighters, and fought Calzaghe as well.

    Dirrell is one of the only fighters who seems to get a pass over far more proven fighters without having to actually do anything to prove himself. His big advantage in this one is speed. That's it. People less knowledgeable than experts such as myself seem to confuse speed and athleticism with skill. It is not the same thing. Kessler does most things well. People claim he's just a one two fighter. He's not. It's a lazy stereotyped criticism made by less knowledgeable types who can't analyse. Kessler's uppercut is a thing of beauty, he throws wicked bodyshots and just flattened Green with a left hook.

    Dirre at the moment is a lot of hype, a fair bit of potential and little actual accomplishment. To beat Kessler, you have to have speed. But you also need to be prepared to take the fight to him when required. To up the pace, take him out of his comfort zone. I've never seen anyone beat Kessler by running from him. Dirrell ran like a thief from Froch. Kessler took the ring centre and backed Froch up. Kessler is surprisingly effective at walking down runners. Dirrell does have the superior defence but he can't hurt Kessler and you actually need to fight not just frustrate the guy.

    I haven't seen the full fight from last night yet so if Kessler looked as bad as some said then Dirrell may be in with a chance. He is 28 after all, physical prime and all - Kessler'd best years look to be behind him. But the Kessler of a few years ago runs him out of the ring in a fight that looks similar to Kessler- Mundine. If Dirrell wins this it'll be a reflection of how far Kessler has fallen.[/quote]

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