Andre Ward: “I think Floyd Mayweather is the best fighter in the world today”

Can't deny the man is a machine when it comes to preparations. He's as good as he is not just b/c he's gifted....he works hard at staying at this level. Which is what seperates him from most. Manny as well. It does help they have a tad more talent then the next man too.

 

Yeah, the guys who trained their hearts out are always on top.

 

Remember what I said. Mayweather WILL beat Pacman even easier then he beat Mosley. Remember I told you that first.
IMHO, Pacman is talented, but no where near as complete as Mayweather and not even as good a brawler as Mosley. Pacman's jab is equal to or less than Mosley's and his defense is as bad as Mosley's also.
Expect to see a fight that is not as one-sided as Mayweather-Mosley, but a beating that is even more severe then Mosley absorbed, ESPECIALLY when Pacman isn't allowed to drink his favorite Kool-Aid before the fight.
LOL, I can't wait. I expect to make a ton of $$$$ on this fight. :hey

 

Why don't you enlighten the forum about all these hidden skills about pac that make him one of the freshest things ever in the sport? All I see from you everyday is that girly **** about how your boy is underrated, but there's never an explanation for why he's actually greater.

 

I am a huge fan of both fighters and think they will both go down as ATG. Pac has tons of talent but to say he has done things we have never seen is not true to say the least . . . How can a fellow Canadian be so wrong. What sets pac apart is that he is like a buzz saw and his game plan is quite simple either he gets you or you get him . . . fortunately for him Pac he has great speed, quickness, power and stamina. he may be the best fighter on the planet . . . but PBF is the best boxer on the planet. So few that have mastered the art of boxing like him and when you combine that with his natural abilities you have something special.

this fight is the classic clash between the unstoppable force meeting an unmovable object. You have humble Pac versus flashy floyd, you have the "face" versus the "heel", Dignified Asian warrior versus Brash American Tactician. I cannot see either fighter losing in the ring at this point in time. As I said before as a fan of both I kinda d not want to see but it is a fight that must happen!

 

Yeah, he is. But u WARD :dead

 

I can give you tons of examples but if you don't wanna see it, you won't. Here's one.

Take the first knockdown against Cotto. People think Pac just threw a flurry that blindsided Cotto when he was off balance.

Not true.

Right before the combination that knocked Cotto down, Cotto threw a double jab at Pacquiao, Pacquiao caught the first jab with his right glove and then side stepped the second jab to his right and at the same time walked Cotto into a stiff right hand over Cotto's jab that definately hurt Cotto. Cotto tried to back off and turn away but Pacquiao turned right with him and then flicked a jab upstairs followed by a left to the body while still moving to Cotto's weak hand and followed up with a right hook over his left to the body that caught Cotto clean on the temple and knocked him.

And the best part is that Pac threw a left uppercut behind his right hook. So if Cotto would have ducked under the right hook, he would've ducked right into an uppercut.

None of that is just random flurrying, but most people don't see that.

Did you see how Pacquiao completely owned Cotto's jab and left hook in the 2nd round? I had to post like 6 gifs of Pacquiao owning Cotto's left with crisp counters in the same round before anyone else noticed it. Its not just speed, quickness, power, and stamina as Jasper says. Its intelligence, precision, movement, footwork, accuracy, and near perfect execution.

That's why I'm a fan of Pacquiao.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Floyd too, and I love watching him fight. I don't cheer for him to lose like I know so many haters do. I just hate how so many Floyd fans try to tear down Manny just to make Floyd look better.

 

He knows how to set traps and out think opponents. Lots of elite fighters know how.

His actual techniques aren't scientific breakthroughs that can benefit boxers in the future by being emulated. For example he gets off balance by throwing his left cross sometimes and ends up doing a balancing act on his right tippy toes. Definitely not something that people should copy unless they're athletically gifted like he is.

Following up a hook with an uppercut is one of the most basic combos.

Isn't that what you just did earlier in this thread?atsch

 

Yes Pacquiao knows how to set traps and out think opponents but he's definatly not perceived as such by the boxing public.

As for the combo when its a 2 punch combo its basic but when your combo is jab, left to the body, and then right hook... following it up with an uppercut is anything but basic.

Saying that other fighters with Floyd's style have come and gone many times throughout the years is hardly tearing him down. I'm talking elite fighters here. I can't think of any recent elite fighters who fought like Pac does.

 

Seriously, the "boxing public" doesn't perceive him to be as stupid as you make him out to be whenever you victimize him. If you don't believe me look at who won fighter of the decade. I'm not going to say I don't give him ****, because he's done some bizarre **** like eating three left uppercuts in a row from Clottey then fails to counter any.

He was also wide open when he threw that left to the body. Cotto didn't have the speed and right hand to catch him. There's a reason people advise caution when throwing a straight punch to the body.

You're really saying a jab, cross, hook, and uppercut is an advanced combo?atsch Each following punch is already set naturally by the previous punch due to the weight rotation from the first punch.

You tried to say Ward, a pro boxer with a promising career ahead, is wrong because he thinks Void is the best fighter. Then you tried to cite emmanuel being an unorthodox fighter as a reason for why he's better than Void. If that's the case then why is Void considered the greatest talent of this generation, and why the **** is he favored to beat your boy?

 

Oh....I'll remember that for sure bro. But unfortunately you were not the FIRST to come up with that kind of comment. But I'll gladly give you credit after the fight when you witness either Floyd losing for the first time or see your boy in a serious fight where he struggles to get the most meaningful win of his career.

Of course Manny is not as complete in terms of being a boxer. There are very few who are as complete as Floyd.. But that doesn't mean that he's doesn't give away certian advantages to Manny that are not just about techincal boxing skills.

For you....I hope you don't lose the house on your wager on Floyd dominating PAC b/c I can gurantee he won't have an easy night. Manny is not Shane and is far more dangerous than Shane. Sure PAC can lose this one....but if I were a betting man there are too many signs that points me towards manny winning in an upset.

 

great posts

 

Like I said if you don't wanna see it, you won't. We can go back and forth forever.

The boxing public doesn't see it but the experts, analysts, and insiders... those who live and breath the boxing landscape and talk about it for a living and watch all fighters and all fights, they know.

When Pacquiao throws that left to the body, he is crouched and leaning to his opponents left. That's not a coincidence. If he sees the right hand counter coming he can just dip down and out of danger.

Its actually pretty hard to throw a hook upstairs behind a straight to the body. It takes alot of coordination and athletic ability. And to land it right on the temple takes graet accuracy and great understanding of how your opponent will react to each punch.

Just cause I said Ward is wrong doesn't mean I'm tearing Floyd down. Think about it. As for being considered the greatest talent of this generation, its pretty clear now that Pacquiao is considered the greatest of this generation, not Floyd. That's not tearing Floyd down.

 

I agree with Andre Ward.

I'm sure he thinks manny pac is pretty nifty too

 

Ward knows what he's talking about lol.