Andre Ward.... a terrible boxer

I don't think Shumenov can beat Hopkins or Ward.

 

Ward KOs Stevenson in 3 but loses to Bute? :rofl

Stevenson would destroy Ward.

 

Is this correct? When did Ward refuse to fight Stevenson? Did Stevenson call him out after a fight or something?
If this is so, what was Wards reason?

 

The reason why Ward doesn't get caught is his speed, reflexes and footwork. How ever i don't think he is a Bhoop, as soon as his speed wears down he will have some trouble. His biggest problem is his inactivity and the fact he didn't fought Bute after S6 hurt his legacy a lot, despite what the fanboys say. He hasn't done anything special since he beat Froch in the final.

 

Yhis :deal

Mikkel's coach Jimmy Montoya said Ward had spies in their camp, i don't know whether that is true or not. But he only has himself to blame when people are trying to take credit away from the Kessler win, due to the headbutts.

 

Agreed, but - as perhaps Kessler's biggest non-Danish fan - that was a long time ago. Ward has done a lot since. We kind of need to let that go.

 

What did Ward really do that Kessler didnt after they fought?
Kessler beat Froch
Ward beat Froch

It was the biggest win for each since they fought but possibly a bigger win for Kessler taking Frochs 0.

Sure Ward has done more and been more active, but I dont think theres as much in it as it first looks

 

Kessler went 1 and 1 and life and death with Froch both times.

Ward outclassed him plain and simple.

The disparity in competitiveness washes out whatever bonus points Kessler may get for technically claiming his zero.

 

Ward hasnt fought Froch a 2nd time and Ward fought Froch to a close decision after Kessler had beaten him.
Dont get me wrong, I agree Ward has done more since, but dont think he has anymore a significant win since they fought

 

No.

Ward beat Froch every bit as comfortably as Froch beat Abraham.

Froch looked no less a caveman against Ward than he in turn made Abraham look.

 

I'd say the Dawson win qualifies as special.

 

Also the best headbutts and elbows too.:yep

 

Ward is one of the most complete fighters and his resume speaks for itself.



Edwin Rodríguez

UD

12

2013-11-16

Citizens Business Bank Arena, Ontario, California

Retained WBA/The Ring super-middleweight titles.



Win

26–0

Chad Dawson

TKO

10 (12),
2:45

2012-09-08

Oracle Arena, Oakland, California

Retained WBA(Super)/WBC/The Ring super-middleweight titles.



Win

25–0

Carl Froch

UD

12

2011-12-17

Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey

Retained WBA(Super), and won WBC & vacant The Ring super-middleweight titles.
Won Super Six World Boxing Classic tournament.



Win

24–0

Arthur Abraham

UD

12

2011-05-14

Home Depot Center, Carson, California

Retained WBA(Super) super-middleweight title.



Win

23–0

Sakio Bika

UD

12

2010-11-27

Oracle Arena, Oakland, California

Retained WBA(Super) super-middleweight title.



Win

22–0

Allan Green

UD

12

2010-06-19

Oracle Arena, Oakland, California

Retained WBA(Super) super-middleweight title.



Win

21–0

Mikkel Kessler

 

We will have to agree to disagree on that one. I felt it was a close fight with many close rounds. With Froch and Abraham, Froch was clearly winning most rounds

What top undefeated fighters has Ward beaten? What undefeated world champs has he fought?
Kessler was an already beaten by an old end of SMW career champ, was an unwell double vision suffering fighter who had not been greatly active and who hadnt beaten a top SMW for around 3 years, and coming off a loss was able to beat Froch.
What SMW pedigree did Dawson have?

 

say what!?!?!?

Ward doesn't knock anyone out. no one. Stevenson would put his lights out with one shot.

and Bute would have beaten Ward before he was sent packing against Froch, but not now. he's completely done as a top class fighter. he's ruined.