Andre Ward amateur record 115-5, Golovkin 345-5

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  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yet people seem to think Ward was the better amateur and is more skilled because he won gold and Golovkin silver.

    Discuss.
     
  2. Constable

    Constable Boxing Junkie banned

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    golovkin has never been down in ALL his fights!
     
  3. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Ward went pro when he was 20.

    GGG didnt go pro until he was 24.

    So obviously GGG had more time to rack up wins.
     
  4. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Golovkin reminds me very much of a larger Kostya Tyszu
     
  5. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But it's a much better win ratio in a more difficult division.
     
  6. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    If you say so.

    Im sure if Ward had wasted another 4 years of his career as an amateur Im sure he would have clocked up a lot more wins too
     
  7. Alien

    Alien Chin Scholar Full Member

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    Where is Ward and that elongated head of his?
     
  8. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you mean you think he would have went 225-0?
     
  9. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought Ward hasn't lost since he was 12 years old, are all his amateur losses prior to that?
     
  10. detamour

    detamour Guest

    The purpose of this again? why, does he never call out the same sized ward as him again?
     
  11. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I heard ward hasn't lost since he was 5
     
  12. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He haven't lost since he was 14 and started four years before that, at age 10 or so. So he lost from 10 to 14 age old. Source: wiki.

    Pretty impressive.



    He is still a d.ck though.:yep
     
  13. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Golovkin has the better numbers and the bigger and more impressive resume, but Andre Ward was fairly impressive himself.

    Other than 2004 Athens Olympics, Ward didn't participate any other major international tournament, but his results in Athens were impressive.

    He didn't have to compete in the first round of the tournament because he won the 2nd place on the American 2004 Olympic Qualifying Tournament.

    Second round - He defeated Clemente Russo 17-9. Russo was just a newcomer prospect at the time, but he achieved much success in his later amateur career, moving up to HW and winning 2 World gold medals (2007, 2013) and 2 Olympic silver medals (2008, 2012). Like I said, he wasn't anything more than a new prospect at the time he fought Ward, but he still went to achieve great things later.

    Quarterfinals - He defeated Yevgeny Makarenko 23-16. This was probably the best name he defeated in the amateurs. Prior to the fight, Makarenko was the 2-time World amateur champion (2001, 2003) and the #1 favorite to win the tournament. He was also a 2-time European champion and had much more experience than Ward at that level and it was a major surprise when Ward pulled it out.

    Semifinals - He defeated Utkirbek Haydarov 17-15. It was a razor close fight. Haydarov was also a former World champion from 1999, silver medalist from 2001 championships and gold medalist from Asian games in 2002. He also went to win a World championships bronze medal on the next tournament.

    Final - He defeated Magomed Aripgadjiev 20-13. Aripgadjiev was silver medalist from 2003 World championships (lost to Makarenko) and a top 3 favorite heading into the tournament.

    So to sum it, in his very short amateur career on the world stage, Andre Ward managed to defeat pretty much every reputed light heavyweight.

    To be fair, during that time, middleweight was considered a lot tougher division than light heavyweight, with much more reputed amateur names fight at MW. The next big stage tournament was 2005 World championships in China. The winner was Zanabergenov from Kazakhstan, who never won another tournament before or after that.

    In 2007 the LHW competition started to seriously heat up, with Atoev winning the gold medal at World championships, Beterbiev winning silver. Today in 2014, the LHW is one of the strongest divisions in the ams, with La Cruz, Joe Ward, Niazimbetov, Mamazulunov and Ivanov.
     
  14. detamour

    detamour Guest

    The purpose off this ****ing thread again. How in hells name, does it relate to pro boxing again? **** off with this assnine thread fool!!
     
  15. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

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    Well I don't really care who is the better amateur, I'd just rather watch them fight and see who is better now.

    As far as their pro careers, Ward won the S6 and pretty much established himself as the man at 168. Golovkin hasn't been able to get any big fights at 160 so far, but his destruction of Macklin, the recent losses of Martinez, Sturm and Soliman are enough to indicate Golovkin is probably the best at the weight class.