Andre Ward + Bradley are the only Americans worthy of top 10 P4P spots

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  1. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So Jean Pascal is Haitian?
     
  2. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Ward should be top 10. Bradley is not IMO
     
  3. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Im my opinion, yes he is.
     
  4. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You have a very strict defintiion of nationality. From his bio (he played ice hockey, sounds Canadian!):

    Jean Pascal was born in Port-au-Prince (Haiti). In the late 1980s his family moved to Quebec, Canada. In school he played ice hockey and soccer, but--watching his older brother Nicholson Poulard become the Quebec boxing champion in 1996--Pascal, at 13 years of age, started to visit boxing gym "Club Champions St-Michel" once or twice every week. His first trainer was Sylvain Gagnon, who considered Pascal to be very talented. (According to an interview in May 2005, Pascal's idol was Roy Jones Jr..) Pascal became the Canadian amateur champion seven times (1998-2004). In 2001 he joined the national boxing team. Three times he was named the best Canadian boxer (2001-2003). His final amateur record was 103-18.
     
  5. H .

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    how about Lennox Lewis? :blood
     
  6. SportsLeader

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    I wouldn't argue with you if you defined him as Canadian :good

    Born in England........English!!!!
     
  7. conraddobler

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    First it's where their born, then your preferences and opinions.
    Looks like you're just full of shite.
     
  11. anarci

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    I disagree with you and im sure most americans would too... I personally know so several people born in Mexico,Central America, China,Asia... THe ones that were raised here since childhood would be totally out of their element, and most would feel as out of place as any other American...
    Being from Southern California where there are many residents foreign born but raised here, i think i Know a little more than Euros,or some others on this topic..... Abner Mares is another one born in Mexico but raised here and listening to him you would automatically assume he is 100% american Same with Liberado Andrade.. Versus a guy like Margarito who was born in the US but raised in Mexico, Same thing Margarito is 100% Mexicano nothing American about the way he talkes,Style etc etc.
     
  12. SportsLeader

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    Relax mate :lol:.

    I said that I personally base a fighters nationality on where they are born, but I can accept that from an American perspective that you would base a fighters nationality on what MW and Anarci mentioned, based on citizenship. Although that isn't my ideal way of basing nationality, it is the custom in your country so I can accept that. It's just my opinion that a fighters nationality based on their birthplace, just like it's your opinion to base nationality on something else. If that's your preference for judging that matter, then I can't argue with it, that kind of thing is subjective, as proven by the debates it's sparked on here before.

    I don't know why you're getting so worked up though :yep
     
  13. SportsLeader

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    Fair enough, that wasn't really something I was aware of. Thanks for posting :good
     
  14. H .

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    whatever makes you feel better :good
     
  15. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    According to SportsLeader, Margarito is an American! It's just an opinion, it's non-binding, but we should respect his view.