Andre Ward bulking says he at is 199 ibs pure muscle working on something special.....

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  1. velagod

    velagod Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Also fact that ward has refused vada testing the past and also he has shown a tell tale sign of ped use with his back acne. So that alone puts suspicion on ward and now hes talking about putting on pure muscle mass while he’s been retired it will naturally make people at least discuss the subject.
     
  2. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    Depends what stage of development they're at. Ward is already muscular at 175lbs and a grown man. The most he could likely gain in a month would be around one and and half to two pounds of pure muscle. That's provided he's training full time on muscle gain with a great diet and no use of steroids. More likely it'd be closer to a pound.

    As a beginner, having done no weight training at around 155lbs it'd be considered exceptional to gain anything around 20lbs a year. I think we can assume Ward is neither 155lbs nor a complete novice to weight training.

    https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-ripped-dude-how-much-muscle-can-i-put-on-naturally.html

    https://www.muscleforlife.com/how-much-muscle-can-you-build-naturally/

    https://www.t-nation.com/training/tip-how-much-muscle-can-i-build-in-a-month

    There are loads more articles available, but those should give you a good idea of things. Regarding your own experience, how much of your mass gain was lean muscle? Ward seems to be saying he's gained 10-15lbs of lean muscle, not just overall mass. For a man of his stage of physical development that raises alarm bells with me.

    Even at 7 months the weight gain is suspicious. Then again, Ward might be BSing and including fat along with the lean muscle, in which case 10-15lbs is very attainable.
     
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  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To be fair he has been VADA tested before and back acne means nothing, hell I have back acne right now and I'm not doping. That much increased mass if true is suspicious though and this is coming from a Ward fan.
     
  4. Faceplant

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    He's going to try to billygoat Joshua for the HW title.
     
  5. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    Yeah, I have back acne myself, and have done since my teens. That's a poor indicator.

    What's more damning is the company Ward has kept in the past, namely Victor Conte. There's only one reason you ever hire Victor Conte for any sports related activity, and it ain't for his great knowledge of bass guitar.
     
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  6. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    And its not like Ward is that muscular either. He was a damn matchstick when he turned pro. Said years ago that to make 175lbs took work.
     
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  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed anyone working with known offenders has to be suspect. Now that Ruiz Jr is supposedly working with Memo Heredia combined with his dramatic weight loss you have to suspect he's doping now.
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Even for a relatively skinny guy? We are not talking about a bodybuilder here. Those guys work for years to gain a few pounds.
     
  9. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Lol at the Ward haters.

    SOG about to crap on the HW division.
     
  10. velagod

    velagod Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know but he refused it after he had a break and yeah back acne don’t mean much but when you consider it all it’s suspect.

    Lyle McDonald's Natural Lean Muscle Mass Gain Model
    Years Training: Muscle Gain:
    1 year 20-25 pounds (2 pounds per month)
    2 years 10-12 pounds (1 pound per month)
    3 years 5-6 pounds (.5 pound per month)
    4 years 2-3 pounds (not worth calculating)
     
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  11. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Lyle McDonald is such a gimp and he hasn't gained an ounce of muscle in his life.
     
  12. velagod

    velagod Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haha but what he puts there is generally accepted as the norm though.
     
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  13. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    Ward takes a crap on most of the divisions he's been involved in to be fair.
     
  14. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    AJ vs Ward: drug dealer vs drug taker.
     
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  15. Paranoid Android

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    Andre Son of Roids Ward.

    :deal:
     
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