Andre Ward: Bute would have to face off with the Super 6 Champion to prove he’s best

When Calzaghe beat Lacy and Kessler, they were the only other top dogs of the division. Bute was still considered a prospect and had just had a title shot for the first time in his career.

But by your standards, Calzaghe didn't even need to fight Kessler to prove he was the best, becase after Calzaghe beat Lacy he had a greater claim to being the best than Kessler did. I can't agree with that.

 

So after all this I'm still wondering IF the winner of the super six will have a match with bute. Otherwise this whole discussion has been pointless.

 

One thing for sure is that BUTE vs the winner of the super 6 is the fight everyone is gonna want to see if Bute remains undefeated in the meantime.

 

we'll never agree.

The video showed Bute got up within 10 seconds and that there was less than 10 seconds left in the round when he went down. All the ref did was create a controversy that in the end worked against Bute, because without that ref noone would be questioning Bute's victory.

Also, I strongly believe that to prove you are the best, you should defeat all the other top dogs in the division, not just most of them.

If Ward moves up to fight at 175, then that's fine with me. Bute can still establish himself as best SMW in the division once Ward is gone.

Lastly, I already consider Ward better than Bute. That's not the point. I'm a big fan of both and hopefully they'll fight to prove who is the best SMW.

 

Exactly. Beating Chagaev did not prove to me that Wlad is the best heavyweight, since Vitali is still around and dominant.

 

Write out your list of top 10 heavyweights. Now imagine that numbers 3-10 engage in some kind of tournament, leaving Wlad and Vitali to fight scrubs for the next two years that are not top10 caliber.

Would the winner of this tournament prove that he is the best Heavyweight, without beating neither Wlad nor Vitali?

 

It's kind of an odd situation. I think that head to head Bute is the #1 SMW right now. At this point his resume' also matches up well with anyone in the S6. However, whoever wins the tourney will have a much better resume' than Bute by the end of the tournament. With so many of the top guys involved it is not possible for Bute to keep up on that level.

In addition, even though Bute looks like the best 168 pounder in the world right now, that may not be true at the end of the tourney. We may witness big improvements from Dirrell and Ward. Both are still maturing.

And finally, while it may not be probable, it is certainly possible that a revitalized Kelly Pavlik could come roaring back from the edge of oblivian, and change everything. It wouldn't be the first time boxing fans thought a fighter was past it only to have the fighter prove us wrong in impressive fashion.

At the end of the day there are still two titles out there that are held by fighters who are not in the S6, and, it's probably foolish to completely exclude KP from the picture. The end of the tourney is a long way off, and a lot can happen in the interim.

 

False, Showtime never invited him even if they tought about it. Anybody who follows closely boxing knows that...

 

:amen

 

You`re kidding?

 

Froch will lose at least one more match there.

 

Not every time. but almost.Losing in Super Six is not necesarily better than winning outside.