Andre ward contradictions

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  1. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    bute didn't prove himself. he got massacred against the first top SMW he faced :lol:
     
  2. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    sergy called out ward at 175 why is wardy avoiding him ?:lol:
     
  3. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No more so than Bute had before he faced Froch.
     
  4. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's my point. Ward wouldn't fight Bute because he hadn't proved himself. GGG and Chavez Jr are no more proven than Bute was but Ward seems to want to fight them.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I have no problems with him going to fight Kovalev at 175 but after that don't accuse Ward of ducking GGG at 168 when he moves up. I know how people like you work. I want the GGG fight because I think he's better and more complete than Kovalev is.
     
  6. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    look at these aholes

    "I really believe it when ggg said he would fight anyone from 154 to 168 but its not only him who has the final say who he fights he has a team so that also plays a big role in who he gets to fight...."
     
  7. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fair call :good
    the difference is that ward has put his career in a spin since winning the super six, and with all the contractual problems, he also finds himself in a division where there isn't much to talk about

    it's also worth nothing that ward has talked up fighting the smaller man, just like golovkin has with Floyd - but neither seem willing to move up when there is glory there
     
  8. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    OK, once and for all, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "DUCKING" SOMEONE IN A HIGHER WEIGHT CLASS! Ward is not "ducking" Kovalev, Mayweather is not "ducking" GGG. You only duck guys who are in the same weight class you are. If a guy is smaller, he needs to come up and take a couple of fights at your class before you are "ducking" him, if a guy is bigger you have no responsibility to fight him, until you grow out of the weight class you are in.

    The exception is when your team starts making you look bad by saying you will go up in weight and fight King Kong, like GGG's team did. His manager said that he was open to fighting anyone from 154 to 168, Ward and Lara both want the fight...ok, now what? It looks like he's ducking.

    Get it...?Got it...?Good.

    They came up with weight classes for a reason!
     
  9. Pimp C

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    GGG is light years better than Bute so please stop it. JCC Jr is more proven because he's huge and rugged he's not been put on ***** street like Bute was against a limited plodder in Andrade. Also who else is there left to fight at 168 for Ward other than Groves? JCC Jr and GGG are both good options for him.
     
  10. boxing_master

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    ward has been at 168 for decades....

    when he is he going to step up and fight sergy at 175 ?
     
  11. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward fought Kessler as part of the Super 6 tourney. The tourney was put together by Showtime and they wanted 3 American fighters. Ward had already proven himself as one of the top American fighters at 168. It's obvious now that he was proven enough as he decisively beat Kessler. Now while Ward spent a couple of years fighting top comp, Bute was getting fat off of 2nd and 3rd tier opponents. It's pretty obvious now that Bute wasn't properly tested as he was steamrolled by Froch. His career has fallen off the rails since.

    Now if Ward had tried to challenge Kessler, and there was no Super 6, Kessler would've had every right to tell him to up his resume. That wasn't the case though.
     
  12. Serge

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  13. markclow

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    GGG should not fight Ward, they are not the same size.

    Just like Ward should not fight LightHeavies until he has decided he wants to move up.
     
  14. Pimp C

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    He will as soon as he can get GGG in the ring and maybe fight Groves if he beats Froch.
     
  15. The Shockmaster

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    BM( i shortened it since your the tripe you speak is more equivalent to a bowel movement)....why dont you just shave your head and join the aryan nation....this is of course assuming you already havent