Andre Ward Greatest SMW?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think greatness can only be judged from opponents and Ward has yet to beat a top prime SMW.
    Wards best win is unwell, rusty, double vision suffering Kessler, who had been beaten by the old end of career previous champ. The division is just not that strong at the moment. Froch is getting on and Ward didnt fight Bute, losing what would have been his biggest fight.
    Wards resume is nowhere near as strong as previous SMW champs Eubank, Calzaghe or Ottke. In fact I think S Collins SMW resume is arguable even with so few title fights when you think he had 2 wins over Eubank and 2 wins over Benn. I just couldnt imagine Ward being able to beat some of the SMWs of yesterday in Eubank, Collins, Calzaghe, Benn, Jones and am not convinced he would have beat a few others.
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    How do you work that out?
    2 of Wards top 5 wins are Calzaghe victims :lol::patsch
    Bika would probably be one of Wards top 5 wins and he wouldnt be a top 5 for Calzaghe



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    Calzaghe beat 3 undefeated fighters who had or went on to claim a SMW title.
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    1. Someone tell me which top undefeated fighters Ward has beaten?
    2. Tell me which top undefeated world champs Ward has fought?

    Dont try and tell me rodriguez was a top SMW. Who did he beat?




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    Andre Ward............VS.............Joe Calzaghe
    Froch.....................................Kessler
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    (Kessler beat Froch)
    Kessler...................................Eubank
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    Dawson..................................Lacy (Lacy a proven SMW and winner of 5 SMW title fights. Dawson no pedigree at all at SMW)
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    Abraham.................................Mitchell (Mitchell a 2 time SMW champ who had never been clearly beaten, only lost by debateable SD in Germany to Ottke, had KOd long time SMW champ Liles, beaten a future SMW champ twice, compared to AA who had done nothing at SMW)
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    Bika.......................................Brewer (Bikas best win became Manfredo, Brewer had beaten H Graham and was a SMW champ)
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    (Bika was a Calzaghe left over at that time and had been out of the ring bar less than a round for a while)
    Green.....................................Woodhall (Woodhall a SMW champ, who had beaten a reigning SMW champ, a world rated former champ, a future SMW champ and Branco a world rated SMW who became WBA LHW champ, who at SMW beat R Reid and G Johnson who when old and shot KOd Green)
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    Miranda...................................Bika (Bika now a top 5 SMW had drawn with 3 time SMW champ Beyer)
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    Buchanan (?????)......................Sheika
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    (Sheika was coming off a win over G Johnson and was a top 10 SMW at the time)
    Camou (?????)..........................Veit (Veit a SMW title holder who had a fair resume, better than at least 2 of the current top 5 SMWs)
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    win and then the other top 10 SMWs and its clear Calzaghe is well ahead. I could have put
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    ahead of Green, Camou, Miranda, Buchanon.

    Very clear but nobody will have a sensible answer to say otherwise, it will just be a lame Faileys losing it answer when they cant debate against

    Somebody tell me how Ward has done more than that.



    Nobody can counter the above or answer the questions. In fact they hide from the questions :lol:
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    yep you are spot on there, you worked that out exactly as it is. cant see how anyone can see it different.
     
  4. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Bailey brought out the heavy artillery.:deal
     
  5. Capt

    Capt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why does all your posts have something to do with Ward?