Andre Ward has the weight of America on his shoulders, can he live with it?

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  1. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    fair post bedwetter, i hadn't previously read the link you provided because i wasn't gonna bring the dirrell to expose ward avalanche until i knew that the fight was definitely on.

    i feel i have been robbed of the chance to brutally pwn a huge cluster of esb minnions who are ranking ward top 5 on their p4p lists. that success in combination with my other considerable back catalogue of hype job exposures would have catipulted me to the undisputed king of esb and placed my as a bonafide atg p4p top 3 esb poster :deal

    its back to the drawing board now for me, i will do my sums, and calculate with cutting edge precision who will next be exposed as a disgracefull hype job :think
     
  2. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol::lol: Sorry to spoil the plan. Sadly I wrote that when I thought the fight was on LOL. Still with that, people are still favoring Ward to win. So if this happens down the line you will still have your chance to make some noise.

    On another more comical note. I remember you said that you have never been PWNED. I looked back at one of my old post PWNING you the first time I ran into you:deal. So go ahead and add a loss to that record of yours :lol:. Here is the link to that PWNAGE :lol:. Read and enjoy:good. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207844&highlight=Calzaghe&page=3

    Sincerely from your favorite poster
    LASTLETTER26.
     
  3. HEADBANGER

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    :good was a good read :lol:

    wheres mind reader these days, he was a sound yank :deal
     
  4. hoopsman

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    Are you Arran in disguise? Seriously. You are ****ing obsessed with American fighters and their respective status.

    Ward beats Froch like a drum. The Bute fight, however, would be much more competitive.
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wrong again Ward used dirty tactics against A Green as well as Kessler. I agree Ward did work on the weaknesses of Kessler that Calzaghe exposed which is making him back up in a straight line.
    But Ward is a dirty fighter as proven by his fights with Kessler and Green and was aloud to get away with alot he shouldnt of
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Kessler as a 2 time WBA and 2 time WBC champ who in world championship fights has fought 5 undefeated fighters, beating 3 of them, of those 5 undefeated fighters 4 of them were or became world champs, the other was unlucky due to a long count (Andrade - Bute) not to be a world champion also.
    Kessler has fought away as a world champ to Mundine, Calzaghe, Haussler, Ward.
    The names on Kesslers win record speaks for itself, ie Siaca world champ, Lucas former WBC champ, Beyer 3 time WBC champ, Thobela former WBC champ, JC Green former MW world champ, Mundine 2 time WBA champ, Andrade, Sartison current regular WBA champ, Haussler & Froch WBC champ.
    Ward wont lose many rounds using the head, hitting and holding in jokeland. But lets not get carried away with this not losing rounds in the S6 when beating a fighter suffering double vision and beating A Green :patsch, lets see who they have him fighting next :think. I wouldnt be shocked if it was someone like A Hanshaw.
    If Ward wins the tourney it wouldnt make me say much as hes had the easiest run in hindsight, in that hes never had to fight an undefeated fighter in the tournament like all the others, hes had his first 2 fights (so far) at home, and not fought away, he got to fight an unwell double visioned fighter and A Green first. If he wins it will say little
     
  7. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What did he do dirty to green? All he did was get in close and ruff him up. No holding besides green trying to hold. Green wasn't throwing anything back so Ward didn't have to use any foul tactics to get inside. He just walked right in. Kessler was throwing punches atleast. Against Green, Ward used an upgraded, more technical, and less dirty young Ricky Hatton style of mauling with more percise punching. Green didn't want to fight and Ward just did what he wanted to him. Not even a good match to look at ward because green didn't do anything. Let's see what ward does in his next match. I promise you that if it's not Dirrell or Bute, ward is gonna whip anyone not close to his speed regardless of how the opponent wants to fight.
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im honoured that you appreciate my post. Always a pleasure when an Elite acknowledges ones work.
    Good point, it wouldnt be unfair to put Taylor on that list with his compatriates, as he has been found to be over hyped like the others, and exposed like the others. The real signs about Taylor was after he lost twice to Pavlik, he was rebuilding and not looking bad fighting in America, but then he pushed his luck fighting in the deep European SMW talent pool, where big fish from America get eaten.
    Ive always gone easy on Taylor as he seems like a genuine nice guy, that was willing even if unable to succeed, luckily for him he was coming through in America where he could develop, rather than in Europe.
    I stand guilty of forgetting Taylor.
    Ward will appear on the list along with Dirrell, Lacy, Pavlik, Taylor, Dawson, Tarver and probably Cloud also
     
  9. bailey

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    Grabbing hold of Green before even throwing a punch, holding and hitting, pushing with the inside of the glove and pushing in head first
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not American fighters, just a fan of all fighters from all countries.
    Ward will be KOd if he ever goes near Froch
     
  11. MichiganWarrior

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  12. bailey

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    :lol: Froch outpointed Dirrell, and Pascal who BEAT Dawson who you hyped :lol:
     
  13. MichiganWarrior

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    Froch got a gift against a green Dirrell where he landed maybe 3 punches the whole night and dirrell made him look like an amatuer.

    Ward would school Froch like the English bum he is. However Froch will probably be in the hospital for awhile after he loses to abraham.

    I mean same guy who lost to Kessler who couldnt even see. Typical English fighter if I ever saw one. :yep
     
  14. lastletter26

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    Well Kessler obviously isn't as sharp as he was when he fought Calzaghe due to age and long layoffs, but he is still 1 demensional. He showed some good signs vs froch but even to acknowledge that he beat froch in a tough fight and then not give ward any cred for shutting kessler out is backwards :patsch. Kessler did not win 1 round on 1 card. If you think headbutting was the reason kessler didn't come close to winning a round then you are in denial. You need more than your head to win. You need defense and punches landed. Ward had alot of both against kessler. To not win one round says it all:deal. You must be saying that froch sucks because the double vision kessler beat him.

    Those names you put up on kessler's resume, you already know I don't rank high so just stop with that because we will always have conflicting opinions on those guys. Froch is the only win I rank high. There are alot of hype jobs on that list if you want to compare them to the american ones you always have something to say about (haussler is the biggest joke of em all). Mundine was a hypejob, Andrande isn't good and all you need is eyes to see that.

    There were only 2 great fighters at 168 when Kess fought Calzaghe and that was kessler and Calzaghe. Nobody else was anything special. SMW was a very shallow division with little respect outside of those two at that time. Even lacy who was hyped up for being an olympian and Roy Jones friend could be seen as not that good when you really looked at him.
     
  15. lastletter26

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    Then what do you feel about Froch hittin dirrell behind the head with more than 50 shots in thier fight? I know what you are gonna say. You will say it was ok because dirrell wasn't giving him a chance with his moving and holding. Dirty is dirty so save the double standard because froch's dirty tactics in that fight were flat out dirty out of fustration for not being able to hit someone who could hit him. No gameplan to expose a weakness. Just fustration for being hit and not able to hit someone that gifted.