Andre Ward is the American Saviour in the Super Six! He will win the Tournament!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Oct 31, 2009.


  1. Super Hans

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    What I'm saying is, Ward would have to bring a significant portion of his own fans to fill Wembley (as Groves did), and Ward does what, attendance of 4K in his home town. No chance it does 80,000 at absolute tops half that
     
  2. Rumsfeld

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    I'm no expert on UK fans and I admit to frequently being baffled by them. So I'll take your word for it.

    I just find it difficult to believe that Groves was that big an item, despite being a regional fighter from said region.

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  3. Super Hans

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    He wasn't really for the first fight (although people knew of him from the DeGale fight) so above where Ward is now in terms of how many casuals are aware of him. But Froch was big, however no way would the 1st fight have sold out Wembley just based on Froch alone.
     
  4. Rumsfeld

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    After what I saw tonight, Ward should do whatever it takes to lure Golovkin up to 168. That's the fight that can help Ward recover from his career missteps following the Super Six.
     
  5. Rumsfeld

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    Ward was outstanding tonight, truly outstanding!

    Tremendous performance all things considered.

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  6. MVC!

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    Yeah, but Smith was decently game, didn't fold like a cheap tent. He was there to fight and was just massively outclassed.

    Corner had to pull him, but it was a really good decision by them.

    Wasn't going to get better and his face was like pizza.
     
  7. Rumsfeld

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    Hey, Smith did buzz Andre twice really well in what was it? The 7th? I like Ward, and think he's the most talented fighter in the game today, but like anyone else - he's not invincible.

    Hope he steps up the comp and is back in action some time fairly soon.
     
  8. MVC!

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    Buzzed once in the 6th or 7th. It was a pretty good shot but Andre looked phenomenal. Jab looks as good as usual and his combinations tonight were magnificent.

    Hopes he fights DeGale or Jack/Groves winner next.
     
  9. Rumsfeld

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    I'd really like to see him face Golovkin, as I think that's the guy that can put Ward back on the path he was on following the Super Six. I think (despite the fact I know many disagree with me) that Ward makes relatively easy work of Golovkin for a variety of reasons. That's the fight Ward should be gunning for #1 if he could pick and choose an ideal situation for his next fight.

    I can't see Golovkin having much success at all against Ward.

    Kovalev, on the other hand, would be a different story...

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  10. capt1

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    Ward didn't even have to use his defensive clinching and spoiling for this fight and still dominated in all facets.
     
  11. MVC!

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    Don't think Golovkin will move to 68 any time soon.

    He claims that Ward brings 0 money, has always said this and I'm pretty sure he wants to fight the winner of the Cotto/Canelo fight anyways.

    Just wish they would stop bringing up each others' names for promoting their next fights. :mad:

    GGG wants the money fights and I'm sure Ward does as well.

    I'm pretty sure Ward will gun for a fight in the UK maybe with Chunky or Froch (If he's not retired), or go to 75 and fight Stevenson/Kovalev.

    That's probably a better path than GGG atm.
     
  12. MAJR

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    Problem is - and always has been - Ward wants everyone to come to him. Either fight him in his backyard or in his weight division. He's not prepared to go the extra mile to get the big fights, he's not prepared to chase the big names and give up homefield or weight advantage to get them.

    This severly handicaps him when it comes to making "superfights".

    He's a great fighter without any doubt, but I do question his ambition.
     
  13. Jake LaMotta

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    Another masterclass...great to see him back and looking very sharp. Onwards and upwards, time to clear out 168 again. DeGale, Abraham and Jack are f*cked
     
  14. theanatolian

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    I take it you don't think Ward has a chance against Kovalev, rumsfeld? Do you?
     
  15. lepinthehood

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    dont give rumsfield too much credit.

    he also thought kovalev would lose to bhop/.