Andre Ward made 6 TITLE Defenses in nearly 6 years. Sven Ottke Made 21 in 5 and 1/2

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  1. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    :deal
     
  2. Glass Joe

    Glass Joe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Because Sven Ottke was absolutely one of the most underrated champions and boxers of his time.
     
  3. Glass Joe

    Glass Joe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Utterly ridiculous nonsense. Pointing at paper, while ignoring his record on the paper, is absurd.

    Charles Brewer, Gabriel Hernandez, Thomas Tate, Glen Johnson, Tocker Pudwill, Charles Brewer again, Silvio Branco, Ali Ennabati, James Butler, Anthony Mundine, Thomas Tate again, Rudy Markussen, Byron Mitchell, David Starie, Mads L****n, Robin Reid, and then Armand Krajnc before retiring.
     
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    Little Mac says :hi:
     
  5. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ottke benefited from a fair bit of home cooking but he became so synonymous with the term most didn't even care to watch for themselves. People just assumed every close decision he got was crooked but that actually wasn't the case.
     
  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    The Reid fight was such a farce that it ended up overshadowing his own career outside of his home country.

    Never before or again will we see a fighter be warned by a referee for punching his opponent in the face.
     
  7. RC31

    RC31 RiGod Full Member

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    'Murican hype.
     
  8. Godhead

    Godhead Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fighting nobodies in Europe doesn't count for much, where the competition ESPECIALLY BACK WHEN OTTKE fought was Far inferior. I can still remember when Arturo Gatti destroyed
    Thomas Damgaard who never left Europe
     
  9. Staminakills

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    Only yours, probable. Fyi: there's is no p4p list that has a 100th the meaning of ours
     
  10. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He didn't collect alot of scalps, they were given to him with the supersix. Not to say he's not super skilled, he still had to beat them, point is they were under contract to fight. He has yet to do anything outside of that, still waiting for that Kovalev fight which considering Ward is to get another fight after Barrera, will likely only happen in 2017.
     
  11. VBOX

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    Legends will be made of Andre's run as champion.
     
  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    they chose to sign the contract as did ward. are you saying they were forced to sign it?
    is it cowardzaghes and svens fault that they signed to fight a lot of weaklings?

    so, yet to do any other than eclipse Calzaghe 11 cumulative fights in his first title fight inside 40 minutes.
    and other than to eclipse sven and joe taking 27 years between them to unify, by unifying in 2 years.

    well aint it a good thing we aren't waiting for a young cowardzaghe to fight kovalev, which would take till 2027 when sergei is 40something.
    and good luck waiting fro sven to fight a lhw like kovalev, which would be never.
     
  13. HerolGee

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    shame he lost some of those fights then. meaning he wasnt ruling for 6 years at all, nor came close to 21 defences. AT best hesjust out of single figures.

    if he'd won them all you'd have an argument.
     
  14. metalmickey

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    Ra's Al-Ghul have you watched Ottke v Reid, Reid was warned for actually landing a punch on Ottke's face.
    Every time Reid landed a decent punch the ref would step in, stop the action sometimes warn Reid.
    Terrible fight caused by a terrible ref.
    It sounds so crazy but its true, must have been some rule in Germany at the time that you cannot punch the champion legally.
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its not fair to compare the two fighters.
    Ottke is a SMW legend and in my opinion in the top 3 SMWs of all time.
    Ward has left SMW and although had a good SMW run possibly wouldnt make the SMW top 10 even if there are some fighters rated higher who he may have been able to beat. I couldnt imagine him in the SMW top 5.
    Yes Ottke was a very active champ with a great resume

    Different eras I guess. I cant recall off the top of my head how many of those were mandatories for Ottke, but I dont think Ward fought a mandatory