Andre Ward made 6 TITLE Defenses in nearly 6 years. Sven Ottke Made 21 in 5 and 1/2

:shock::shock:

Who would be your 10?

 

True only the Reid fight was an outrageous robbery. I had Brewer edging him in the 1st fight but it was close. A lot of people say the Mitchell fight was a robbery but I thought it should have been a UD to Ottke myself.

 

21 fights in 6 years? Whoopie! Sugar Ray Robinson fought La Motta twice in TWENTY-ONE DAYS!

 

Ward was cycling off the sauce.

 

Wrong. ottke had no respect outside of Germany .This is because he was a joke .a light punching home town hero who only went on so long due to dodgy refs and judges. Let's face it the Germans would support a shop dummy if you said he was champ and German.he wouldn't have to be a German dummy they will just give the dummy a German type name and then they can pretend he is German. If the Germans put a very heavy weight on the base of the dummy he wouldn't get knocked over thus meaning he would triumph on points. A bit like ottke.

 

Funny because Ward's two best opponents were actually "euro bums"

 

I did say possibly top 10 and not top 5, but looking at resume, Ward in my opinion did not face a top undefeated SMW or top prime SMW. Although Ward has a win over Froch, I would struggle to overall put Ward above Froch or Kessler based on resumes at SMW

1. Calzaghe
2. Eubank
3. Ottke
4. Collins
5. Benn
6. Kessler
7. Froch
8. Park

From here it does seem debateable and Ward may get in. I struggle with 9 and 10 with Holmes, Jones, Toney, Ward, Lacy, Liles, Mitchell

 

no they weren't.

why you assuming that the OP thinks kess and forch are eurobums? how convenient for you to change the meaning of the OPs post to suit your own agenda. ANswer his post not your own!

you make an ass of u by assuming.

 

No, I was just poiting out that these type of posters like Blackcloud are the ones who call every European fighter a eurobum. Sadly, Ward's two best wins were against European fighters. You could have figured it out yourself though, if you weren't mentally challenged.

 

You would be better off putting Herol on ignore.
He is an irrelevant poster. I wasted time replying to someone who cannot answer questions posed from their own comments.
What I see of his posts now is so much better

:yep

Its better that way

 

I think you should quote where he says kess and froch are eurobums if you wish to retain your credibility.

in the post you justquoted, you failed to notice I mentioned kess and froch as euros. If you hadn't failed to notice, you'd not have to pass the buck with a failed slur.

next time read.

 

thought so, posting about me when you claim to ignore me - basically talking shyte as usual.

I've had you on ignore years before that, you destroy yourself mate with your own posts.

 

And you failed to notice in your first comment that I was not talking about the OP's post. That just made your entire post re****ed, which was a good reflection on your intelligence level. Now **** off troll, I have no more time arguing with a no-life virgin who does junior high level trolling 24/7

 

so you are castigating the OP for material that is NOT in his posts.

who is the troll?

interestingly you the trolling one has the mindset to pretend I'm trolling you for pointing out YOUR TROLLING haha weird man.

 

You have over 12,000 posts here and most of the time you contribute NOTHING to the threads, you just antagonize other posters, that's why a lot of guys put you on their ignore lists - hence you are a troll. Hopefully you will get a life soon for the sake of this forum.